Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 08:16:52PM +0200, Julian Oliver wrote: This should help clear things up: http://is.gd/ZmBaMD (Featuring VJ Ann O'Nymous) Please do not use URL shorteners, particularly on this list. -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-12 Thread Julian Oliver
This should help clear things up: http://is.gd/ZmBaMD (Featuring VJ Ann O'Nymous) -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-12 Thread Fran Parker
Excellent Julian! Here's the direct link for all three videos by CircledUp (http://www.youtube.com/user/CircledUp) over at Youtube: http://preview.tinyurl.com/8d3wrs6 and raw URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhEzawkDTgEfeature=bf_prevlist=ULDhyUkrGcidQ On 10/12/12 2:16 PM, Julian

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-12 Thread Fran Parker
I love what they say in the videos. The videos are very well done and immediately put you at ease. I have dealt with Phil's products for a very long time, and I would trust that what he says is true as far as he knows about this product. However, open scrutiny of the code is the only way to

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
It would have been much nicer to create this thread based on real source code, instead of a tweet based on word of mouth. We'll see. NK On 10/11/2012 3:27 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: Dan Gillmor @dangillmor: @kaepora Phil Zimmerman told me yesterday that Silent Circle (contrary to what you say

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Yosem Companys
We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor: @rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm doing + he told me they'll be making everything open source. That's why I added the question mark, in case someone on the list knew anymore (for example,

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Katrin Verclas
Copying Susan Alderson, VP of Informatics, Silent Circle who was also in the meeting Eric and I referred to. Susan, forwarding you a thread from the Liberation Tech discussion list about Silent Circle source code, location of servers, etc. Please feel free to chime in, and nice to meet you!

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nathan
Can someone explain what this big secret briefing was? Are they making the PR rounds in DC? Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu wrote: We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor: @rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm doing + he told me

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nathan
Here's my prediction: Silent Circle will not fundamentally change anything. It will have no where near the impact that Phil's work on open cryptography standards has. It may be a great niche product for businesses, professional journalist groups and large NGOs looking for a turnkey solution. It

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
. From: compa...@stanford.edu Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:48:03 -0700 To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code? We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor: @rj_gallagher

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Ryan Gallagher
, 11 Oct 2012 18:26:28 -0400 From: na...@nadim.cc To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code? On 10/11/2012 5:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher wrote: To Nadim: I'm interested to know, did you contact anyone at SC before writing your blog

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Christopher Soghoian
Oct 2012 12:48:03 -0700 To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code? We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor: @rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm doing + he told

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
? Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:26:28 -0400 From: na...@nadim.cc To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code? On 10/11/2012 5:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher wrote: To Nadim: I'm interested to know, did you contact anyone at SC

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
highlight serious potential dangers. From: compa...@stanford.edu Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:48:03 -0700 To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code? We

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
. From: compa...@stanford.edu Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:48:03 -0700 To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code? We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Thanks for spelling it out, and Nathan. NK On Oct 11, 2012 8:12 PM, Nathan nat...@freitas.net wrote: Ryan, mm. It says on the SC website that it will use Open Source Peer-Reviewed Encryption, Peer Reviewed Encryption and Hashing Algorithms, and also says we believe in open source. Is

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Seth David Schoen
Ryan Gallagher writes: On 10/11/2012 18:26 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: I sincerely apologize if my post is jumping the gun a bit, but aside from reassurances in private press conferences, Silent Circle hasn't made any statement that supports their releasing their code as open source. In

Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?

2012-10-11 Thread Seth David Schoen
Nathan writes: Like organic, open-source is a term that is easily claimed but not often truly fulfilled. Nadim should be given more credit for the completely transparent and engaged open-source project he runs, and for defending an approach and philosophy that he is completely living up to.