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- Jay P Hailey jayphai...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Jay P Hailey jayphai...@yahoo.com
To: LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 8:01:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Re: A question -
For example, Michael Jackson
Libertarian society CAN punish violations of the Non-Aggression
Principle.. It is entirely moral to have a
Justice League that helps Victims hunt down and punish Aggressors. After
all, enforcing NAP is never
a violation of NAP.
Only if you know for absolutely certain that the target of
Bad example: there was no INTENT. I never sadi anything about real Torts.
Rephrase your scenario in terms of am intentional ATTEMPT TO INITIATE
FORCE and I'll show you a neat surprise.
How do you prove intent?
because I am not going to shoot anybody because yoou say he had a bad intent
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Jay, I love you like a brother, but you still don't understand
libertarianism. We will defend ourselves against folks doing stuff to us,
we won't do things to other folks. The Zero Aggression Principle is too
simple to play in Network News.
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I don't think I said we don't use bombs. Lots of good engineering uses
for explosives. I said we don't use them against human beings, because
they're sloppy and kill uninvolved bystanders.
Again you assume someone who can PARSE that, or juudge what the effect of
being a dumbass with
It ain't Libertopia yet. We're working on that.
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Ward Griffithswdg...@comcast.net
The U.S is heading the WRONG WAY.
Like Yogi Berra Said If we keep on going the way we're going, we're going
to wind up where we're heading.
And that's the opposite of Libertopia
But our neighbors
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Jay P Hailey jayphai...@...
wrote:
Libertarian society CAN punish violations of the Non-Aggression
Principle.. It is entirely moral to have a
Justice League that helps Victims hunt down and punish Aggressors. After
all, enforcing NAP is
And some of us will do a lot more than simply Defending when we catch them IN
THE ACT. Some of us will, when we finally find out who did what to whom, hunt
them down to Punish them.
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, wdg...@... wrote:
Jay, I love you like a brother, but you
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Jay P Hailey jayphai...@...
wrote:
Like I said - I think we have to draw a line that
leaves intent and other intangible things out
but encloses objectively measurable effects.
Otherwise, we're trying to decide how to detect, meaaure and
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Jay P Hailey jayphai...@yahoo.com wrote:
How do you prove intent?
At the Austrian Scholar's Conference 2010, there was a panel of
Libertarian Lawyers that I found exceptionally interesting.
One pointed out how the concept of punishment was actually a
carry-over
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Curt Howland curt.howl...@...
wrote:
At the Austrian Scholar's Conference 2010, there was a panel of
Libertarian Lawyers that I found exceptionally interesting.
One pointed out how the concept of punishment was actually a
carry-over from Cannon
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Jay P Hailey
jayphai...@... wrote:
This is one area where the Libertopian, Free Market Anarchism deal
falls
down - punishment.
The Libertopian system doesn't punish bad people worth a damn.
The issue is restitution vs retribution/revenge.
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Bruce Benson's Enterprise of
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I refuse to be surprised any more...:
http://mises.org/daily/2542
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On Sunday 09 May 2010, Dennis Lee Wilson was heard to say:
We currently live in a culture primarily dedicated to retribution
and revenge (and building prisons). Bruce Benson's Enterprise of
Law does an excellent job of explaining how we came to be
Retribution attempts to punish the perpetrator
You say that like it's a bad thing. But in truth Retribution has
value to many people and there is a Market for it.
There is also a market for initiation... As long demonstrated by history.
and leaves the victim with nothing but
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Wraith wra...@... wrote:
There is also a market for initiation...
As long demonstrated by history.
Absolutely. One reason why it is better to have an Justice League institution
than to have plain Market Anarchy.
For those who may have missed it, the Restitution vs Retribution issue
was discussed on this forum two years ago. Here is a link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertarianEnterprise/message/14794
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertarianEnterprise/message/14794
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At 05:23 PM 5/9/2010, you wrote:
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mailto:LibertarianEnterprise%40yahoogroups.comLibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com,
Wraith wra...@... wrote:
There is also a market for initiation...
As long demonstrated by history.
Absolutely. One reason why it is better to have an Justice
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Wraith wra...@... wrote:
At 05:23 PM 5/9/2010, you wrote:
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mailto:LibertarianEnterprise%40yahoogroups.comlibertarianenterpr...@y\
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Wraith wraith@ wrote:
There is also a market for initiation...
As long
Is a Justice League, that does nothing but ENFORCE THE NON-AGGRESSION
PRINCIPLE, a State?
Sure, it could be unstable. But it is a lot more stable than Anarchy, which
has never lasted more than a year anywhere... always degenerates into
Initiation Of Force, since only Market forces are at
There are a lot more places than the USA. Which Article did the Chinese
Justice System grow from? The British had a Justice System long before the
Colonies began.
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Lee Wilson
dennisleewil...@... wrote:
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