Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Not so sure

2008-07-11 Thread Derek Gaston
> change the linear system or preconditioner or just continue the solve > as is. > Yeah, I guess what I was thinking is that you examine the last few iterations... and maybe you were pretty close to your convergence tolerance but didn't quite make it (but still far enough away that you can't acce

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Not so sure

2008-07-11 Thread Roy Stogner
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Derek Gaston wrote: > I might mention that this same thing happens with the NonlinearSystem class > and Petsc SNES. If it hits max linear its on any of the linear solves > during a non-linear solve... the whole code just silently quits. Seriously? Is this default PETSc beh

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Not so sure

2008-07-11 Thread Derek Gaston
I might mention that this same thing happens with the NonlinearSystem class and Petsc SNES. If it hits max linear its on any of the linear solves during a non-linear solve... the whole code just silently quits. Usually this happens during the first linear solve... so when it quits it writes out t

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Not so sure

2008-07-11 Thread Roy Stogner
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Maxime Debon wrote: > Back to Lagrange, the new file uses the penalty method. This one gives me a perfect straight line answer, with the SVN libMesh and my default options, in parallel or serial... with the exception that the lower boundary is at a value of 1e-10 instead of

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Finish line

2008-07-10 Thread John Peterson
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Maxime Debon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Using the example 0 was the good trick, I finally found that even with > a simple ODE problem, the maximum number of solver iterations was > important ... One should generally continue iterating until a suitable rel

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Finish line

2008-07-10 Thread Roy Stogner
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Maxime Debon wrote: > Using the example 0 was the good trick, I finally found that even with a > simple ODE problem, the maximum number of solver iterations was important ... > > > // --- > equation_systems.

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence - Finish line

2008-07-10 Thread Maxime Debon
Hi, Using the example 0 was the good trick, I finally found that even with a simple ODE problem, the maximum number of solver iterations was important ... // --- equation_systems.parameters.set

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence

2008-07-10 Thread John Peterson
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Maxime Debon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NB: To implement the Neumann condition in a transient case, I finally > used, on the boundary, a finite difference approximation. This seems like it could be a problem if not done correctly at higher orders. What norm are

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence

2008-07-10 Thread Kirk, Benjamin (JSC-EG)
Debon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Thu Jul 10 08:07:40 2008 Subject: Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Maxime Debon wrote: > Using a 1000 elements mesh, I made the computation with : > - HIERARCHIC Order 1 - Edge2 :: Succ

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence

2008-07-10 Thread Roy Stogner
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Maxime Debon wrote: > Using a 1000 elements mesh, I made the computation with : > - HIERARCHIC Order 1 - Edge2 :: Success > - HIERARCHIC Order 2 - Edge3 :: Success > - HIERARCHIC Order 3 - Edge3 :: Success > - HIERARCHIC Order 4 - Edge3 :: Success > - BERNSTEIN Order 2 - Edg

Re: [Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence

2008-07-09 Thread Roy Stogner
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Maxime Debon wrote: > However, this only occurs when quadratic (Edge3) and cubic (Edge4) > shape functions are used. Using linear Lagrange (Edge2) or cubic > Hermite (Edge3) verify the stability of the error when incrementing > the number of elements (To one thousand or more)

[Libmesh-users] Lagrange Convergence

2008-07-09 Thread Maxime Debon
Hi, Experimenting FE convergence abilities when solving ODEs, I am facing an interesting case with Lagrange elements. The error computed with the analytical solution is growing up when the number of elements exceed approximatively 80. Then, the node values are dramatically falling. Howev