Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-05 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On 06/05/2012 11:22 AM, Kohei Yoshida wrote: The reason for disabling the close commands rather than intercepting them and translating them to just end the preview mode is because it's technically very difficult to do so because of the way we end the preview shell. I won't go into the detail her

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-05 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Stefan Knorr (Astron) schrieb: might it be worth thinking about just removing the separate print preview feature and making the print preview inside the dialogue a little bigger? Hi, better not before we have such a (PDF) Export Preview. But of course, advantage with this page preview exclu

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-05 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On 05/31/2012 10:13 PM, Kohei Yoshida wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 19:04 +0200, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: → reply to list, too Hi Kohei, I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. What sticks out as most odd to m

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-04 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hi, Le 31/05/2012 17:48, Kohei Yoshida a écrit : Views and opinions appreciated. As Regina has already pointed out: *page* preview <> print preview. Page preview doesn't imply printing. Eg; exporting to PDF is usefully previewed with Page preview. BTW, I share the comment that the print

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 03/06/2012 16:51, Regina Henschel a écrit : And the fact, that repeating rows and columns are shown. They are neither shown in normal view nor in page break view. Yes, but I'd think that the page break preview takes these into account, even if indeed they are not displayed. That featur

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, Stefan Knorr (Astron) schrieb: [..] As for the paper size/page size difference, I would just want to +1 Björn in that it's a misfeature. No, I thing not. With the new printer dialog we have n-up and brochure printing not only for Writer but for Calc, Draw and Impress too. The page p

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 03/06/2012 15:23, Stefan Knorr (Astron) a écrit : Hello again, so, one thing is always sure, when Regina writes here: lots of the misunderstandings I have about the inner workings of the product are resolved. Thanks! ;) But still... it would be a useful feature for the PDF export dialog

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-03 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
Hello again, so, one thing is always sure, when Regina writes here: lots of the misunderstandings I have about the inner workings of the product are resolved. Thanks! But still... > As Regina has already pointed out: *page* preview <> print preview. Page > preview doesn't imply printing. Eg; exp

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi, Le 31/05/2012 17:48, Kohei Yoshida a écrit : > Hi there, > > While looking into this bug > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48348 > > I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print > preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. Allowing to print from > t

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-06-01 Thread Gökçen Eraslan
On 31-05-2012 21:06, Regina Henschel wrote: > Yes, but you have to add some icons, e.g. "page preview", "help", "print > directly" "pdf directly". > > BTW: In the UI the name is "Page Preview" not "Print Preview", although > the command is ".uno:PrintPreview". And I think 'Page Preview' is the > c

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 13:36 -0400, Terrence Enger wrote: > There remains a question about what the program should do when the > user (or system?) closes the application while a changed document is > in preview mode. I think the Save/Discard dialog at this point is > still highly desirable. If it

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 19:26 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > Kohei Yoshida schrieb: > > > What do you think about disabling these operations while in print > > preview mode? > > > Hi, > My POV: I would LIKE a "save (or better: close) and reopen in PP mode" > for some WRITER documents. Those a

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 19:04 +0200, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: > → reply to list, too > > Hi Kohei, > > > I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print > > preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. > > What sticks out as most odd to me is that our print preview is

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 08:06:12PM +0200, Regina Henschel wrote: > >However [crazy idea], since we now have a Print dialogue that already > >contains a preview, might it be worth thinking about just removing the > >separate print preview feature and making the print preview inside the > >dialogue a

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 16:07 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > That also means that I'll just have to go back and figure out what's > going wrong when saving the document from the preview mode (as reported > in the bug report). :-/ Ok. There is a major issue when saving a document from the preview mo

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 11:48 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > Views and opinions appreciated. Thanks everyone for the feedback. Given all the feedbacks, my conclusion is that we should keep the current behavior of allowing the save action from the preview mode. The main issue is that we *do* allow

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi, Stefan Knorr (Astron) schrieb: → reply to list, too Thanks for reminder ;) Hi Kohei, I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. What sticks out as most odd to me is that our print preview is so incredibly cl

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Terrence Enger
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 11:48 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > Hi there, > > While looking into this bug > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48348 > > I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print > preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. Allowing to print

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Kohei Yoshida schrieb: What do you think about disabling these operations while in print preview mode? Hi, My POV: I would LIKE a "save (or better: close) and reopen in PP mode" for some WRITER documents. Those are data sheets and small catalogs, what mostly are opened to print some pages

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Daniel Bankston
On 05/31/2012 10:48 AM, Kohei Yoshida wrote: I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. Allowing to print from the preview mode makes sense, but saving the document makes little sense, and loading another document while

Re: Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
→ reply to list, too Hi Kohei, > I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print > preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. What sticks out as most odd to me is that our print preview is so incredibly cluttered (menu bar + 2 toolbars), whereas e.g. in Firefox it is

Disabling file opening and saving in print preview mode

2012-05-31 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi there, While looking into this bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48348 I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print preview mode. But to me that feels very odd. Allowing to print from the preview mode makes sense, but saving the document makes littl