RE: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-06 Thread Juergen Funk Mailinglist
Hi I don't know is that helpful information. Symantec delete that files in my case - writerfilter\qa\cppunittests\rtftok\data\pass\ sf_508f4e169fb76c80745d3541bd01b0a2-73462-minimized.rtf Virus:Trojan.Mdropper - d:\bld\deb\workdir\UnpackedTarball\icu\source\bin\ genrb.exe

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-06 Thread Michael Stahl
On 06/10/14 16:45, Juergen Funk Mailinglist wrote: Hi I don't know is that helpful information. Symantec delete that files in my case - writerfilter\qa\cppunittests\rtftok\data\pass\ sf_508f4e169fb76c80745d3541bd01b0a2-73462-minimized.rtf Virus:Trojan.Mdropper hi Juergen, i

RE: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-02 Thread nicholas ferguson
If it needs forensics to find out what was blocked, then the av-solution is crap My thesis is that all av-solutions are deeply flawed =) So only way is to do as already written in the buildinstructions and common sense when actually looking at the AV-solutions' reports: Disable

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-02 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 08:38 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: [nicholas ferguson] I was able to reproduce Norton killing of genrb.exe ... This will give you an example to consider a proper solution. And this highlights the gravity. genrb.exe is a major player in building even a release

RE: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-02 Thread nicholas ferguson
On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 08:38 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: [nicholas ferguson] I was able to reproduce Norton killing of genrb.exe ... This will give you an example to consider a proper solution. And this highlights the gravity. genrb.exe is a major player in building even a release

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-02 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 08:38 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: git grep genrb suggests that it's not used. It is built and used by icu itself to generate data resource files. cd

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-02 Thread David Tardon
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 08:38:35AM -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: I was able to reproduce Norton killing of genrb.exe ... This will give you an example to consider a proper solution. Uh huh? Some crappy virus detector thinks that a legitimate executable created from legitimate source code

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-02 Thread Luke Deller
On 01/10/14 19:55, Michael Meeks wrote: Ideally we could find a reproducer that we could check during configure and print out: You have a (typically) rubbish AV product installed - please un-install and or disable it ;-) I think this is not about AV products being rubbish.

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread Noel Grandin
On 2014-10-01 11:55 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: Wow. So I did a forensic on the env. And I discovered that Norton Antivirus was isolating state files and some executables being built by the LibreOffice build system. Most anti-virus products have a way of excluding specific folder

RE: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread nicholas ferguson
why isn't this wiki page referenced in the readme? Isn't that wiki a page for develpers. What kind of developer in your world, doesn't build a debug version, first? We used to recommend a debug version AFAIR, but the build tree on Linux with debuginfo is 30Gb small - and with

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com wrote: Dear Nicholas, On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 17:19 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: I duplicated their directory structure. And my build still failed. Grief; we should certainly document turning off AV more

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread David Tardon
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 08:50:50AM -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: Where is it mentioned how not to keep downloading the tar files? for 3rd party dependencies. That alone is a HUGE COST OF ENTRY...to discover how to turn that off. The automatic download saves manually downloading

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Nicholas, *, On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:50 PM, nicholas ferguson nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com wrote: [...] Where is it mentioned how not to keep downloading the tar files? for 3rd party dependencies. That alone is a HUGE COST OF ENTRY...to discover how to turn that off. The

RE: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread nicholas ferguson
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1331887/detect-antivirus-on-windows-using-c-sharp At the end of the Windows configure; and warning hard may have helped people like Nicholas save quite a chunk of time. [nicholas ferguson] This is an example of the high cost of doing a build and development

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 08:21 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote: This is an example of the high cost of doing a build and development work with LibreOffie. Great example. Most developers,download the sofware. Look at the ReadME file and then proceed. I don't think we have a

RE: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread nicholas ferguson
The high cost of entry only comes because you just didn't follow the instructions on setting up a windows build system. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Windows_Build_Dependencies So you are the one responsible for not putting up on that wiki how to build a debug version. You

Re: Anti-Virus vendors warnings

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 13:15 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Listed quite prominently in the windows build instructions. Great :-) BitDefender/Security Essentials blocks some of the CVE test-files. Caolan kindly committed a fix to turn off the CVE tests on Windows by default