Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice licensing

2011-06-04 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:59, Rafael Dominguez venccsra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well im no legal expert, but from what i understand of the LGPL/MPL
 licenses, they still are copyleft licenses, you can merge apache code and
 libreoffice code, make your own version if you want, sell it etc, but if you
 make any derivative work, you need to make those changes available to the
 rest, so i dont think its possible to make a closed source office suite with
 libreoffice code under LGPL/MPL.

A third party could do the following:

1. Core [from Apache], licensed under ALv2.
2. Features [from LO], licensed under MPL (you offer a choice, they pick MPL)
3. Proprietary stuff

This package can then be sold. If they make modifications to the LO
work, then they must release those changes. The third party is not
obligated to release any changes to the Apache code, nor their
proprietary code.

Note that the LGPL operates similarly. A third party could take LO
Core licensed under the LGPL and make releases, alongside
proprietary code. They would need to release changes to the core, but
it would still be possible *today*. The relink requirements under the
LGPL get a bit annoying, but would still be possible.

Cheers,
-g
___
LibreOffice mailing list
LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice


[Libreoffice] Hello! ... and lurking :-)

2011-06-03 Thread Greg Stein
Hi all,

I imagine you've all heard about the proposal[1] to contribute OO.o to
the Apache Software Foundation. I've been involved with Apache for
well over a decade, on its Board of Directors since 2001, its current
Vice Chairman, the VP of Apache Subversion, and was the Chairman for
five years. In short: lots of Apache experience.

I've been following and participating in the discussion around the
OO.o proposal on the gene...@incubator.apache.org list[1]. One of the
threads of that discussion was to reach out to the people in the
Document Foundation and the LibreOffice communities. So... that's this
email. I'm now subscribed to discuss@df, steering-discuss@df, and
libreoffice@freedesktop.

I intend to lurk regarding all the regular work that you all are doing
here. I'll be paying particular attention to any conversations or
concerns that you may have about the OOo/Apache stuff, and will
attempt to answer questions that you may have. I'm catching up on the
archives now.

If you have any comments, questions, or concerns, then please feel
free to direct them my way (on whatever list). I'm here to listen and
understand, and to offer up answers where I can.

Cheers,
-g

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal
[2] send mail to general-subscr...@incubator.apache.org if you would
like to subscribe and directly talk about the proposal
___
LibreOffice mailing list
LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice


Re: [Libreoffice] [tdf-discuss] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-03 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 22:06, Allen Pulsifer pulsi...@openoffice.org wrote:
...
 Some of you may have noticed that Greg Stein, a member of the Apache
 Software Foundation Board of Directors has joined this list and offered to
 answer any questions.  Please feel free to ask him about anything that is on
 your mind.  He would be a better person to answer, since I'm new to all this
 Apache stuff myself :-)

Thanks for the great email, Allen, and for the shout-out. Yes, I'm
here listening. Most people at Apache are not familiar with this
community, and so I feel it is important to listen and lurk here to
get a better understanding. Sure... I can also answer questions, and
would be more than happy to do that. In any discussion threads that
may pop up, about the Apache work, I'll also attempt to fill in blanks
where I see them.

Cheers,
-g
___
LibreOffice mailing list
LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice