Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-15 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 17:21 -0800, Patrick Bakker wrote: COPY PASTE TO A CELL WITH AN EXISTING VALUE The first time I copy and pasted a cell formula into another cell which already had something in it a dialog came up asking something like This cell already has a value. Are you sure you

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-15 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 9:47am -0500 Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Kohei Yoshida wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 17:21 -0800, Patrick Bakker wrote: COPY PASTE TO A CELL WITH AN EXISTING VALUE The first time I copy and pasted a cell formula into another cell which already had something in it a dialog came up asking something

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-15 Thread Drew Jensen
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 09:47 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: 2) change the polarity of the current dialog so that the user *unchecks* the check box to dismiss future popups of the dialog, or Hi folks, Have been reading along quietly. +1 for that solution. Best wishes, Drew

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-15 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hello Santiago, On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:04 -0300, Santiago Bosio wrote: El 15/11/10 11:47, Kohei Yoshida escribió: So, just to summarize this thread, we have three possible options for this: 1) no changes, 2) change the polarity of the current dialog so that the user *unchecks* the

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-15 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 09:47 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: If so, I'd say let's make this change on the master branch. Ok, done on master. Testing appreciated. Kohei -- Kohei Yoshida, LibreOffice hacker, Calc kyosh...@novell.com ___ LibreOffice

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-15 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:06 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 09:47 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: If so, I'd say let's make this change on the master branch. Ok, done on master. Testing appreciated. One implementation note. I've implemented this by making changes to the

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Kohei Yoshida wrote (13-11-10 04:14) On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 02:06 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: Default OOo: Backspace = delete without options Dell = delete with options Default LibreOffice: the other way round. Maybe this setting is included in the 'Compatibility options' ? Sure is. :-)

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-13 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 7:57am -0500 Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Kevin Hunter wrote: At 5:32am -0500 Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Michael Meeks wrote: I wonder if switching the polarity of the check-box - so it is checked might help people 'see' it, and thus un-check it to get rid of it (some Mozilla dialogs do that I guess ?).

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Patrick, On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 23:30 -0800, Patrick Bakker wrote: SEMI-COLON INSTEAD OF COMMA AS FUNCTION ARGUMENT SEPARATOR Kohei (or was it Jody) fixed this many moons ago; I believe the default is set to improve usability here in LibreOffice; I too fell over this as my first step

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:32:04 +, Michael Meeks wrote: - Shift+Del permanently removes the file right then. Which makes me wonder; should shift-del give you this 'delete contents' option in that mode (or is the menu sufficient). Yes, that is how I would expect it. del doing the

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 5:32am -0500 Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Michael Meeks wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 23:30 -0800, Patrick Bakker wrote: SEMI-COLON INSTEAD OF COMMA AS FUNCTION ARGUMENT SEPARATOR Kohei (or was it Jody) fixed this many moons ago; I believe the default is set to improve usability here in LibreOffice; I

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 5:32am -0500 Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Michael Meeks wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 23:30 -0800, Patrick Bakker wrote: DELETE CELL HELPER The delete cell helper dialog box pops up anytime I try to delete a cell or cell selection. It gives me options to delete some And this is deadly annoying too -

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 5:32am -0500 Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Michael Meeks wrote: Might be a good easy-hack; how we tell the user in an unobtrusive way that this has happened, I don't know - some good UI ideas there appreciated; the 'status bar' is not such a great plan I suspect for this. alpha transparent, hovering

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 10:32 +, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Patrick, On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 23:30 -0800, Patrick Bakker wrote: SEMI-COLON INSTEAD OF COMMA AS FUNCTION ARGUMENT SEPARATOR Kohei (or was it Jody) fixed this many moons ago; I believe the default is set to improve

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:22 -0500, Kevin Hunter wrote: Do you know roughly when? I could have sworn it was 3.0, but perhaps that was because of out-of-band patches from the *nix distros I was using at the time. I would say 2.4 or 3.0, and it was only in Go-OO, which most Linux distros

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi Kevin, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:55 -0500, Kevin Hunter wrote: This leads to a perhaps bigger thought process of generally all our shortcuts and actions. Is there a list somewhere? Or are these piecemeal throughout the code? I do see Tools-Customize, which begins to address the key

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-12 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 15:08 +0100, Rolf Gloor wrote: Am 12.11.2010 11:32, schrieb Michael Meeks: Kohei (or was it Jody) fixed this many moons ago; I believe the default is set to improve usability here in LibreOffice; I too fell over this as my first step using calc (as an en_US

[Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-11 Thread Patrick Bakker
Having grown very used to Excel defaults I find Calc very annoying to use. Now that contributing to LibreOffice looks sane I'm curious how receptive people would be to some patches for the following Calc conventions... SEMI-COLON INSTEAD OF COMMA AS FUNCTION ARGUMENT SEPARATOR Current Calc

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-11 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 8:21pm -0500 Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Patrick Bakker wrote: SEMI-COLON INSTEAD OF COMMA AS FUNCTION ARGUMENT SEPARATOR Current Calc behaviour: =subtotal(9;a1:a5) Desired behaviour: =subtotal(9,a1:a5) I believe OpenOffice has supported both semicolon and comma since at least 3.0. Take a look at

Re: [Libreoffice] Calc usability improvements

2010-11-11 Thread Patrick Bakker
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Kevin Hunter hunt...@earlham.edu wrote: At 8:21pm -0500 Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Patrick Bakker wrote: SEMI-COLON INSTEAD OF COMMA AS FUNCTION ARGUMENT SEPARATOR Current Calc behaviour: =subtotal(9;a1:a5) Desired behaviour: =subtotal(9,a1:a5) I believe