Re: Is the 'libreoffice' list name confusing?

2013-12-06 Thread Miklos Vajna
Hi Robinson,

On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 11:32:58PM -0500, Robinson Tryon 
bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder if the name of this list is confusing to newcomers to the
 libreoffice project.

Have a look here:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/

There is a mix of using just the project name or the -devel suffix for
the developer list (without suffix: libreoffice, PackageKit, etc; with
suffix: gstreamer, systemd, etc).

Before proposing a renaming I would first check if it's possible to do
so without having to re-subscribe everybody, loosing archives and other
drawbacks. And even then, there will be still this mix for freedesktop
projects. :-)

Miklos


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Re: Is the 'libreoffice' list name confusing?

2013-12-06 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Miklos Vajna vmik...@collabora.co.uk wrote:
 There is a mix of using just the project name or the -devel suffix for
 the developer list (without suffix: libreoffice, PackageKit, etc; with
 suffix: gstreamer, systemd, etc).

Sure -- it would be helpful to see what other projects use before we
actually decide to rename :-)

 Before proposing a renaming I would first check if it's possible to do
 so without having to re-subscribe everybody, loosing archives and other
 drawbacks. And even then, there will be still this mix for freedesktop
 projects. :-)

What I think we want:
- To have only devel traffic on the devel list
- (With minimal effort on our part) To get our users/volunteers to the
right list to answer their questions

If a small linguistic change in our list name can head-off a large
percentage of the messages that are posted to the wrong list, then it
might be worth it. Anyone have anecdotal evidence one way or the other
here?

Best,
--R

(*light goes on* -- I could just ask all of the people who post
questions/bug reports, etc.. to the dev list why they chose to use
this particular list. Perhaps there's some oddball reason like I
found it listed on website XYZ)
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Re: Is the 'libreoffice' list name confusing?

2013-12-06 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Robinson Tryon wrote:
 (*light goes on* -- I could just ask all of the people who post
 questions/bug reports, etc.. to the dev list why they chose to use
 this particular list. Perhaps there's some oddball reason like I
 found it listed on website XYZ)

That would be my #1 suspect. There's no obvious way from the
libreoffice.org sites to get to this list on fdo, but for following
one of our links.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Is the 'libreoffice' list name confusing?

2013-12-05 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

I wonder if the name of this list is confusing to newcomers to the
libreoffice project.

Consider:
#libreoffice - channel for user questions and general visionary planning
libreoffice@lists - mailing list for developers

#libreoffice-dev - This is the LibreOffice DEVELOPER channel...

Perhaps 'libreoffice-dev@lists' would be less confusing?

Cheers,
--R

P.S. the current topic for the dev channel is also confusing
(partially due to the use of commas):
This is the LibreOffice DEVELOPER channel, user stuff, probs without
code: #libreoffice

I think this is clearer:
This is the LibreOffice DEVELOPER channel. User q's  problems w/o
code = #libreoffice
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Re: Is the 'libreoffice' list name confusing?

2013-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think for the mailing list it should be something along the lines of
d...@libreoffice.org. that is short and to the point.


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 I wonder if the name of this list is confusing to newcomers to the
 libreoffice project.

 Consider:
 #libreoffice - channel for user questions and general visionary planning
 libreoffice@lists - mailing list for developers

 #libreoffice-dev - This is the LibreOffice DEVELOPER channel...

 Perhaps 'libreoffice-dev@lists' would be less confusing?

 Cheers,
 --R

 P.S. the current topic for the dev channel is also confusing
 (partially due to the use of commas):
 This is the LibreOffice DEVELOPER channel, user stuff, probs without
 code: #libreoffice

 I think this is clearer:
 This is the LibreOffice DEVELOPER channel. User q's  problems w/o
 code = #libreoffice
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