Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-11
Present: Sahil, Hossein, Rafael, Heiko Comments: Stuart, Cor, Stephané, Miklos, Cor, Ady, Stephane Tickets/Topics * Implement a simple calculation of values to input size and position of draw objects + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158685 + eg. "3+3,2" => "6,2" + Kind of a stretch for *needing* to do the simple calculations (Stuart) + could be useful for more complex stuff like "pi()/4 * 1.2345" or "sqr(sin(2)/cos(3)); similar to bug 72662 about the unit conversion (Heiko) + doubt if it is wise to start walking this path (Cor) + sounds useful (Sahil) + slash might be used as a number separator in some locales and one cannot be sure it is a divider (Hossein) + many tools provide the functionality anyway (eg. KRunner on Linux/KDE but also the search bar on Windows start a calculator) (Hossein) + very simple calculation wouldn't be enough anyway (Hossein) => WF * Move rows with protected cells does not give warning + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158682 + agree that a message is needed (Stephané), but depending on the case + "Source contents not removed because cells are protected." + "Contents were copied but not removed because cells are protected" + "Protected cells can not be modified." (the stock message) + dragging of protected cells is not possible anyway + message box interrupts the workflow and we could also just block the drag feedback + however, paste is not available via menu/toolbar and the keyboard allows to quickly confirm (Heiko) + Agree, a similar message is useful (Hossein) + one message should be fine (Hossein) + "Protected cells cannot be dragged" + stock message is fine (Hossein) + don't change the cursor if DnD is not possible (Sahil) + could also be a blocking cursor symbol (Hossein) => show the stock message and consider the drag cursor * Original size button in image properties -> position and size tab doesn't restore original size for paper size exceeding images in Writer (and breaks image ratio) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158545 + rename to "Reset dimensions" (Telesto) + Word uses just "Reset" + Reason for restricting object size to page size is consistency; Writer defaults to capturing drawing objects inside the page frame (Miklos) + MSO365 allows scaling beyond the page and cuts off the extra part + seldom need for sizing beyond the page (Cor) + sizing the image beyond the page is desirable (Rafael, Hossein) + Word allows this but not to move the image out of the page + simply "Reset" and a tooltip with "Resets width and height to the original size, unless limited by the page size) + show original size as static text like in the compress dialog before the Reset button to make the function more clear (Hossein) + also keep the ratio in all cases => rename, add static size info, and fix the ratio bug * Better design for the Keep Ratio setting + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158531 + not much benefit (Heiko) + go with a small button like in the sidebar (Rafael) + would be a toolbutton taking a lot of vertical space and + we cannot draw the connector arrows (Heiko) + what was the inspiration (Hossein) + GIMP has these buttons, for example + consistency is prime and we use typically checkboxes (Sahil) => go ahead (+2/0/-1); easy to revert * Comemnt marker makes it difficult to see the data in a cell + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158958 + UNO command to toggle indicator on/off quickly (Stuart) + against a user-defined symbol, to revert the patch, and some default margin to make space for the symbol (Heiko) + open to UNO command to toggle the indicator on/off, a less obtrusive default color, different position for the indicator (Heiko) + suggest to add an expert options to control the dynamic size and another to disable the dynamic size (Heiko, Rafael) + use a different default color (Rafael) + is being discussed on bug 159096; maybe orange (Rafael) + make the default a bit smaller (Rafael, Heiko) + ideally do the best per code without option but if needed make it as simple as possible; option is good for now (Hossein) + good default make configuration unnecessary (at least the UI), use grid color and move the indicator to the edge (Rafael) + propose an expert value and use <=0 for dynamic size and everything else as static value (Heiko) + change is needed (Ady), expert option sounds good (Cor, Stephane) => go with the expert options OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-11
Present: Sahil, Hossein, Rafael, Heiko Comments: Stuart, Cor, Stephané, Miklos, Cor, Ady, Stephane Tickets/Topics * Implement a simple calculation of values to input size and position of draw objects + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158685 + eg. "3+3,2" => "6,2" + Kind of a stretch for *needing* to do the simple calculations (Stuart) + could be useful for more complex stuff like "pi()/4 * 1.2345" or "sqr(sin(2)/cos(3)); similar to bug 72662 about the unit conversion (Heiko) + doubt if it is wise to start walking this path (Cor) + sounds useful (Sahil) + slash might be used as a number separator in some locales and one cannot be sure it is a divider (Hossein) + many tools provide the functionality anyway (eg. KRunner on Linux/KDE but also the search bar on Windows start a calculator) (Hossein) + very simple calculation wouldn't be enough anyway (Hossein) => WF * Move rows with protected cells does not give warning + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158682 + agree that a message is needed (Stephané), but depending on the case + "Source contents not removed because cells are protected." + "Contents were copied but not removed because cells are protected" + "Protected cells can not be modified." (the stock message) + dragging of protected cells is not possible anyway + message box interrupts the workflow and we could also just block the drag feedback + however, paste is not available via menu/toolbar and the keyboard allows to quickly confirm (Heiko) + Agree, a similar message is useful (Hossein) + one message should be fine (Hossein) + "Protected cells cannot be dragged" + stock message is fine (Hossein) + don't change the cursor if DnD is not possible (Sahil) + could also be a blocking cursor symbol (Hossein) => show the stock message and consider the drag cursor * Original size button in image properties -> position and size tab doesn't restore original size for paper size exceeding images in Writer (and breaks image ratio) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158545 + rename to "Reset dimensions" (Telesto) + Word uses just "Reset" + Reason for restricting object size to page size is consistency; Writer defaults to capturing drawing objects inside the page frame (Miklos) + MSO365 allows scaling beyond the page and cuts off the extra part + seldom need for sizing beyond the page (Cor) + sizing the image beyond the page is desirable (Rafael, Hossein) + Word allows this but not to move the image out of the page + simply "Reset" and a tooltip with "Resets width and height to the original size, unless limited by the page size) + show original size as static text like in the compress dialog before the Reset button to make the function more clear (Hossein) + also keep the ratio in all cases => rename, add static size info, and fix the ratio bug * Better design for the Keep Ratio setting + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158531 + not much benefit (Heiko) + go with a small button like in the sidebar (Rafael) + would be a toolbutton taking a lot of vertical space and + we cannot draw the connector arrows (Heiko) + what was the inspiration (Hossein) + GIMP has these buttons, for example + consistency is prime and we use typically checkboxes (Sahil) => go ahead (+2/0/-1); easy to revert * Comemnt marker makes it difficult to see the data in a cell + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158958 + UNO command to toggle indicator on/off quickly (Stuart) + against a user-defined symbol, to revert the patch, and some default margin to make space for the symbol (Heiko) + open to UNO command to toggle the indicator on/off, a less obtrusive default color, different position for the indicator (Heiko) + suggest to add an expert options to control the dynamic size and another to disable the dynamic size (Heiko, Rafael) + use a different default color (Rafael) + is being discussed on bug 159096; maybe orange (Rafael) + make the default a bit smaller (Rafael, Heiko) + ideally do the best per code without option but if needed make it as simple as possible; option is good for now (Hossein) + good default make configuration unnecessary (at least the UI), use grid color and move the indicator to the edge (Rafael) + propose an expert value and use <=0 for dynamic size and everything else as static value (Heiko) + change is needed (Ady), expert option sounds good (Cor, Stephane) => go with the expert options OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
