[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #22 from David --- I do use styles. And yes, the hidden text attribute can just be turned off in the style. But I was thinking about something that would temporarily display what was hidden without actually making an actual

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #21 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to David from comment #19) > "Hidden Paragraph" field and "Hide > Whitespace" are available, so why not "Hidden Text" also? Those are fields, special kind of objects. Their insertion is

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to David from comment #19) > It would be nice if a "View Hidden Text" command would at least be available > as a customize command rather than just a global setting. At least then >

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #19 from David --- It would be nice if a "View Hidden Text" command would at least be available as a customize command rather than just a global setting. At least then powerusers would be able to add it. "Hidden Paragraph"

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #17 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #16) I agree. Hidden text could constitute the same level of privacy issue as hidden change tracking: am unexpecting user might not be aware that the document

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze --- Keeping the categorization aside the question was whether this attribute should be more easy to access. And I wouldn't add it to the menu since hidden text is easy to overlook. Non-expert users may

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 QA Administrators changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED Ever

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #15 from QA Administrators --- [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #14 from Christian Lehmann --- Okay, let's abide by that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #13 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #12) > (In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #11) > > then it should probably not be a feature in the submenu > > 'Format - Character' and instead a

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #12 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #11) > Ad 1 and 2 In theory, your PoV has its reason. The characters get "removed" from layout using this setting, and as such, it might be considered

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #11 from Christian Lehmann --- Thanks for the detailed explanations. There are apparently more than one problem hidden here: Ad 1 and 2: In discussing the nature of "Hidden characters", it may seem that we are arguing about

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #8) > Font effects comprise, presently: font color, text decoration, case, relief, > outline and shadow. All of these are attributes that show on every

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #9 from David --- (In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #8) > Hiding a passage of text - and I repeat, including entire sections of a file > - is not something that modifies every character of that text. It is >

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #8 from Christian Lehmann --- Okay, since my verdict that hiding a text passage has nothing to do with font effects is obviously not self-evident to everybody, here is the argument: Font effects comprise, presently: font

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #7 from Christian Lehmann --- Is there a place where one can read on the hierarchy of levels that you mention? My experience is that I have repeated misunderstandings with people working on LO because they have a notion of

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #6 from David --- IMO Font Effects is the proper place for the "Hidden" attribute. But that being said, I think what is wanted here is for an easy way to turn on the "Hidden Text" option under Tools - Options - LibreOffice

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval --- Comment #5 from

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 --- Comment #4 from Christian Lehmann --- I did say that the same applies to hiding entire section. And I did say that the item would be housed well in the main menu "View". Let me add that googling for the question "How do I hide text

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|NEEDINFO --- Comment #3 from

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 Christian Lehmann changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Ever

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |NOTABUG