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upgraded to LibreOffice_7.5.3_Win, only to be
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I am using version 6.4.7.2 . I jsut noticed the note re version 7.2. If code
folding has been added there then please ignore this.
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> comment #150
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> Cougar, all: please *don't* post to this CLOSED issue. Any follow-up issue
> concerning
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> or would it be better to
> open separate reports and collect them in a meta bug?
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> I still believe that making the outline mode in normal view is a wrong
> thing...
Worth to discuss in a follow-up ticket, in my opinion. There are
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> I still believe that making the outline mode in normal view is a wrong thing
> to do. Having things like headers/footers with possible page numbers
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chapter names would interfere with the mode;
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Persistence seems to be working. This is my first time poking
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> E.g. see https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96033 (a search for
> "experimental" on gerrit gives many other matches).
Thanks Mike, I've added
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> I could probably figure out how to make this an experimental feature as
> Dieter has suggested if it needs to be moved to that.
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There's a lot of editing that I like to do in outline view in Word and in WPS
Office, when I was using that. However, during the process of demoting or
promoting content, you should be able to
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> So my take: Commit Early, Push Often. And involve the users in the
> iterations (38 people on CC of that many never build from source but might
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> So my take: Commit Early, Push Often. And involve the users in the
> iterations (38 people on CC of that many never build from source but might
> try the
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> Making outline mode a read-only feature avoids these problems.
Doesn't this solution cripples the functionality too much? Use case is to
temporarily
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> (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #125)
> > > First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess
> > > something like "1.
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> > First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess
> > something like "1. 1.1 " is common and users
> > would like to fold the
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> Assuming you are using the delete key to delete the paragraph, an assert is
> failing.
>
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> Tested https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 and found a few more
> "issues".
>
> First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible.
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Tested https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 and found a few more
"issues".
First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess
something like "1. 1.1 " is common and
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https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 is a patch that combines the UNO
command, Navigator interface, and on canvas patches. It includes effort to
resolve the icon is not placed at the center
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> This option should be off by default IMO. However, maybe it could be
> available into the "View" menu, beside the "normal" and "web" modes.
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This option should be off by default IMO. However, maybe it could be available
into the "View" menu, beside the "normal" and "web" modes.
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> (In reply to andreas_k from comment #118)
> > how can I test it? Great work.
>
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96486
Works like a charm.
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> how can I test it? Great work.
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how can I test it? Great work.
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@Jim comment #116
Wunderbar. Great job.
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demo of only folded buttons always show approach
Demo of "Only show unfold/expand buttons always".
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I agree that it is reasonable to always show the Expand icon/button for
collapsed parts. But then what means "always"? I suppose that in that case,
either that button must be shown even when the
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> I would prefer to show only the icons and not the button...
Sure, but I'm talking about button+icon and to have a plain, conventional
layout even when the
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> demo using icon themes for button image
In general from visual design I would prefer to show only the icons and not
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> How about showing only the minus always but the plus on hover?
good idea.
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> Here is an approach change from mouse hover over to show button to buttons
> always shown.
How about showing only the minus always but the plus on
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> buttons always shown approach
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> Here is an approach change from mouse hover over to show button to buttons
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> (I don't like the plus/minus icons and
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> Because the user doesn't know that there is a hidden content...
Got it. And you are right, in case of collapsed outlines the icon must be
permanently
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> (In reply to Jérôme from comment #103)
> > Is there a way to make the +/- always visible when using this feature ,
> > without the need of hovering ?
>
> Why?
Because the
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yes push it. tiny improvements can be added afterwards. Look good to me.
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> Is there a way to make the +/- always visible when using this feature ,
> without the need of hovering ?
Why? It's intentionally designed in this way to be
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Is there a way to make the +/- always visible when using this feature , without
the need of hovering ?
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Forgot to mention the video also shows that Space and Enter keys can be used to
toggle. Space toggles content not including sub levels. Enter toggles content
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> About the +/- symbol can it be an icon from the icon theme? cause than the
> icon designers can modify them depend on the icon theme. would be great. you
>
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right click menu in the navigator.
I'm new at that feature request and didn't read all the 99 commands.
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> Removed option to show button from Menu > Tools and added to Options dialog.
So users can expand/collapse outlines per context menu at the headings
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When looking at the demo provided by comment #92, the option "show outline
content visibility" is great.
Why the +/- toggle button isn't always visible when this option is enabled ?
If it would be always
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> Providing UNO commands for customization is always a good idea. However,
> this entry does not fit under Tools (neither I would place it anywhere else
> by
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Providing UNO commands for customization is always a good idea. However, this
entry does not fit under Tools (neither I would place it anywhere else by
default). My first idea regarding an option was
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Tooltip and supress option additions
Thanks Mike, a tooltip has been added. Also an option to
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That's brilliant! I suppose that having a tooltip mentioning the changed
opeartion with right-click (like format paintbrush has) could make that
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Link to code for plus minus button single click approach with right mouse click
to toggle including subs:
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Plus Minus button single click demo
Here is another go at the button appearing when mouse is held
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> Here is an out of the way button that may be too out of the way.
A bit but not too much, IMHO (better than other solutions, worse than a symbol
left-attached to the
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I saw the videos from the comments 84 and 85. From user point of view, it would
be painful if I have to wait for the control to appear after pointing the mouse
over the title. What about implementing a
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Here is a gerrit link to the code that does the menu button shown in the demo
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demo of button in margin less out of the way.
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Toggle button in the margin way out of the way
Here is an out of the way button that may be too out
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> Using ctrl+click solution plus context menu would be very awkward. I suppose
> that having an "outline mode" - some button toggling a *dedicated toolbar
> with
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> Afraid this will be annoying in the average workflow. It's a large dialog
> always in the way like MSO's mini toolbars for formatting (see bug 87040).
>
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> Great tip to look at how the frame controls work, thanks Mike. Attached is a
> demo of a first stab at doing this from the canvas.
Afraid this will be
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Great tip to look at how the frame controls work, thanks
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--- Comment #79 from Mike Kaganski ---
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> So what thoughts for toggling visibility/enabling on-canvas outline markings
> as done with the +F8 Field shadings, or the +F10 Non-printing
>
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--- Comment #78 from V Stuart Foote ---
Thanks Jim!
As implemented thus far, would have no visual indicator added to canvas,
meaning the Navigator would have to remain expanded, or be undocked.
And of course it forces the use of
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--- Comment #77 from Jim Raykowski ---
Here is the gerrit link that does the mouse click outline folding discussed in
comment 75
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94377
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--- Comment #76 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #74)
> If we can't get the controls onto document canvas
Think about the popup controls for page breaks and headers/footers (that appear
when you hover over
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