[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 116664] installing 5.4.5.1 completely messed up typeface and lines in a document just created

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 Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #22 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Thanks for retesting with the latest version.
Setting to RESOLVED WORKSFORME as the commit fixing this issue hasn't been
identified.

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--- Comment #21 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Heavens! Sorry for forgetting about this in the pressure of work.
Last night I installed 6.0.4.2 and have just opened one of the reports saved in
2015 - and it's fine. So certainly the latest version does not produce the
problem. I have not gone back and tried with whatever the link you supplied
would provide, but I guess it's not necessary and that this answers your
question.

Again, many apologies for very late response,
David

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--- Comment #20 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Same behaviour in

Version: 6.0.3.2
Build ID: 1:6.0.3~rc2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1~lo2
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; 
Locale: ca-ES (ca_ES.UTF-8); Calc: group

Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice
from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ?
I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version.

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--- Comment #19 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Created attachment 141830
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=141830=edit
LibreOffice 6.1 master

I can't reproduce the problem in

Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 43af818557904450b13839350c65ad865b9ee9d2
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; 
Locale: ca-ES (ca_ES.UTF-8); Calc: group

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--- Comment #18 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to David Edwards from comment #15)
> Created attachment 140987 [details]
> an older example as requested

That was last edited in LO 4.3.2.2 2014-12-03

(In reply to David Edwards from comment #16)
> Created attachment 140988 [details]
> another, slightly older

and that was last edited in LO 3.4 2013-06-26

Should be what we need.

Thanks!

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--- Comment #17 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
I didn't really understand how to open an archive and Zip the files so I hope
simply sending you a couple of older ones will help.

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--- Comment #16 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 140988
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--- Comment #15 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 140987
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an older example as requested

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--- Comment #14 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Oh, sorry - I already installed 5.2.7.2, which indeed solved the scrolling
problem.

But I will have some old reports of this type, and presumably if I don't open
them they will not be transformed in any way and give you the information you
need. 

I'll try to send what you ask for. (I am busy working on other matters right
now, so it may be a few hours before I can get round to it; I hope that's OK.
If I need to temporarily update to the latest version again for any reason,
I'll do that too of course.)

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--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to David Edwards from comment #12)
> ...
>
> My instinct as a user would be to go back to an earlier version of LO where
> these problems don't occur, whilst not liking doing that. (Interestingly the
> one I picked at random 5.3.3.2 causes big delays in scrolling in a large
> Calc file (>20 000 lines) so I shall probably go back further, to 5.2.7.2 !)
>
> ...

Actually, before you do that, we really do need to understand the cause of the
formatting changes. It probably is a font replacement issue gone awry (either a
PS Type 1 or a bitmap font), but that has already happened in the two example
files you'd posted.

We won't be able to do much for dropping those fonts--but there may be a chance
to manage the filter import font assignment to the resulting styles for the
documents.

To do that we need a couple of your older documents, hence the NEEDINFO. If you
have some reports from several years ago. You can open a document archive, it
is just a zip file, in a Zip utility and look at the the "meta.xml" file to
identify what version of LibreOffice or OpenOffice had created the ODF
document. 

p.s. in a bit of irony, the scrolling issues in Calc were also a DirectWrite
font handling issue that has been fixed in more recent releases (5.3.7 or 5.4.3
w/default GDI rendering bug 112486, or 5.4.4 for OpenGL rendering bug 113347).

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--- Comment #12 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
I am not a technically competent person - what I was flagging up was that a
document using Times Roman which in previous iterations of LO opened in Times
Roman and had correct line lengths etc. in the latest version of LO opened in
Liberation Serif with altered spacing and a line which ran on. Lower down it
opened in something which looked more like typewriter script. As in the past
this document always displayed correctly I felt something was wrong. If for you
this behaviour of LO is correct/normal there's no bug. The fact is that it now
alters the document, requiring correction of the font and spacing whereas in
the past this was not necessary. As I probably originality imported the address
etc from a Word document, some compatibility appears to have been lost. But it
sounds as if this reflects a decision made as to how to deal with certain fonts
and for you it's normal.

My instinct as a user would be to go back to an earlier version of LO where
these problems don't occur, whilst not liking doing that. (Interestingly the
one I picked at random 5.3.3.2 causes big delays in scrolling in a large Calc
file (>20 000 lines) so I shall probably go back further, to 5.2.7.2 !)

But if you want to say it's not a bug and close it, that's OK by me. I'm not
competent to argue!!

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--- Comment #11 from Timur  ---
I didn't look into files, but this must be decided: if bug then we must know
what exactly needs to be changed based on experienced/expected results (and I
can't see it defined) or this can be closed (preferably with David's consent).

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--- Comment #10 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Thanks. I shall have to do some research to understand all this erudite detail.
I think the original address, website, etc. information would have been copied
from a colleague's Word original - years ago.

5.3.3.2 is what I have installed now and 5.2.7.2 will be what I had yesterday.
Up until today's installation of 5.4.5.1 the Times Roman fonts opened as Times
Roman and everything looked as it should. I have probably been using these
documents (one as a template for the next) for about four or five years.

Hopefully if I recreate all the top part of the page (common to all the reports
I'll create) afresh in LO, things should be OK henceforth. But it would seem
there has been a step backwards in compatibility if documents with elements
imported from Word which used to display properly no longer do so.

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--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to David Edwards from comment #8)
> Thanks for this. It looks as if the end of your remarks was lost. 
> 

Its just the link to the first pdf attachment with the screen clips.

> Does what you say mean that I have to revert to an even earlier version of
> LO and stay with it or have to manually reformat everything that is in Times
> Roman? It is a very commonly used font and I will be perpetually annoyed if
> the LO/Win 10 64 combination alters it all to the horrible Liberation Serif.
> Out of interest, is the 'fault' (and in consequence I suppose the remedy)
> with Windows or LO?

No, Liberation Serif is metric equivalent to Times New Roman, while Liberation
Sans is metric equivalent to Arial.  

The issue looks to be in the styles applied to the ODF documents--they were
incomplete and so LibreOFfice defaults get applied.

attachment 140921 shows meta as authored with
LibreOffice/5.2.7.2$Windows_X86_64

attachment 140920 shows meta as authored with
LibreOffice/5.3.3.2$Windows_X86_64

So, suspect problem predates these builds of LibreOffice and these versions of
the file "reports". 

One more sage with replacing ODF styles would need to comment (Regina?), but
believe issue is that there is no font assignment to the
"Police_20_par_20_défaut" and "Internet_20_link" styles across multiple text
spans in the content, you pick up current LO defaults. 

I think we would probably need even older versions of the files to see what the
original style specified for font. Then in Writer (or other affected module)
use Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Writer:  Basic Fonts (Western) dialog to
adjust the defaults. Pick a better font (old bitmap fonts like "roman", or
PostScript Type 1 fonts if installed will not show on the list box) that
renders the reports without too much distortion.

Going forward, work up a better Style to apply to the paragraphs of the
reports.

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--- Comment #8 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Thanks for this. It looks as if the end of your remarks was lost. 

Does what you say mean that I have to revert to an even earlier version of LO
and stay with it or have to manually reformat everything that is in Times
Roman? It is a very commonly used font and I will be perpetually annoyed if the
LO/Win 10 64 combination alters it all to the horrible Liberation Serif. Out of
interest, is the 'fault' (and in consequence I suppose the remedy) with Windows
or LO?

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--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Font replacement Liberation Serif for Times occurs on Windows 10 Ent 64-bit
en-US (ver 1709) with
Version: 6.0.3.1 (x64)
Build ID: 62abb169b0efa1520d7bee1f586865354060b989
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; 
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: group

But document is reasonably formatted, none of the mono-spacing shown in
attachment 140918

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--- Comment #6 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 140922
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pdf of doc still requiring correction when opened in 5.3.3.2, made yesterday
with earlier LO

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--- Comment #5 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 140921
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report which still needs some correcting in 5.3.3.2

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--- Comment #4 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 140920
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report which opens correctly in 5.3.3.2

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--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Please attach .ODF document and a PDF of document with original style/fonts
assigned.

There have been substantial changes to Windows font handling 5.2 -> 5.3 -> 5.4

And legacy bitmap fonts, and PS Type 1 fonts have been dropped.

Unmanaged font substitution for invalid fonts can cause this type of visual
change as replacement fonts often will not have matching metrics and the
document composition will change.

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--- Comment #2 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
I have installed 5.3.3.2 and it correctly opens the address, but transforms the
telephone numbers and email websites lines into Liberation Serif, and the word
'websites' to 14 point from 12. If I change these back to Times New Roman 12
point the document displays correctly. Maybe I have to revert to an even
earlier version to get it to open without need for these modification. I think
I had 5.2.7.something before, when I did not have any of these problems.

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--- Comment #1 from David Edwards <2davidedwa...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 140918
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=140918=edit
images of document as it should be from saved pdf and as 5.4.5.1 opens it.

The correct version is at the top of the image. The police was simply Times
Roman as I remember, nothing unusual. I find this degree of mishandling of the
file difficult to comprehend. It has been fine in version after version of
Writer.

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