[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #15 from 和尚蟹 --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #14) This question, I explained at the beginning, I am writing once. Note: 1, this function, do not need to turn off the "hand tools", "hand tools" can always exist. 2. This function, because it is an "independent" function, does not affect the function of "editing". 3, this function, mainly used in more than 20 pages of documents, because more than 20 pages of documents, "vertical scroll" is difficult to "fine movement." 4, this function is mainly used in "drawing". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13) > Activated from View -> Zoom: "Zoom & Pan"... +LMouse Got it. Not really nice with the toggle and the duplicate functionality whether the mode is on or off but acceptable from the UX POV. So the remaining question is why do we need this in Writer? And in Calc as well Math, Base it's totally pointless. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12) > (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #11) > > Correct, the feature already exists for Draw. > > How does it work? The control is modal. Activated from View -> Zoom: "Zoom & Pan (CTRL to Zoom out, Shift to Pan)" In Pan mode, i.e. +LMouse select, the visible canvas is grasped and view of canvas can be repositioned in any direction with mouse movement. Release of LMouse releases the canvas at that location. The paired Zoom mode, i.e. +Mouse Scroll will Zoom in/out centered at cursor position. The combination of controls provides efficient and precise positioning and display of the document canvas. Essential to work in Draw, but probably of use in the other modules. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #11) > Correct, the feature already exists for Draw. How does it work? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #11 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to 和尚蟹 from comment #4) > (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3) > > Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, Math, Base, all use this design. Correct, the feature already exists for Draw. And scroll bars (slider grab, and buttons) are functional in all modules. Yet an ability to reposition the document canvas by mouse pointer placement and mouse or cursor key (U,D,L,R) movments would offer more precise and efficient repositioning of the view of any document canvas. Compared to pointer movement onto the scroll bar control for repositioning which can be too coarse and inprecise, movment originating from current position is efficient. It works that way in Draw--but IMHO would be helpful in all modules. Only question is if the current control for Draw can be used with all VCL canvas, or if control must be refactored. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 和尚蟹 changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|1 |0 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #10 from 和尚蟹 --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9) The above palindrome, I have already explained. If it is not detailed enough, you can try the program on the website below. The idea is to improve from the program on the website below. A program similar to the one below is now used by many people. Https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scrollbar-anywhere/namcaplenodjnggbfkbopdbfngponici -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) > Why do we need to move the page? I mean isn't the "hand tool" always there > to switch from picking to moving. Can you elaborate this a bit, please. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #8 from 和尚蟹 --- supplement After dragging the "hand tool" with the left mouse button, when the left mouse button is released, the "hand tool" will return to the original place. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #6 from 和尚蟹 --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) The function of the "hand tool" is "small movement" and "quick operation". It can be "quick operation", it is a lot worse. Move the page so that the displayed image is what you want. --- Comment #7 from 和尚蟹 --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) The function of the "hand tool" is "small movement" and "quick operation". It can be "quick operation", it is a lot worse. Move the page so that the displayed image is what you want. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #6 from 和尚蟹 --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) The function of the "hand tool" is "small movement" and "quick operation". It can be "quick operation", it is a lot worse. Move the page so that the displayed image is what you want. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Component|LibreOffice |UI --- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to 和尚蟹 from comment #0) > Hold the "Hand Tool" with the left mouse button and drag the "Hand Tool" to > move the "Page". It's a long mouse travel and panning usually starts with the alt key. > ◎, “Hand Tool” will drag to the left, and “Page” will move to the left. > ... Why do we need to move the page? I mean isn't the "hand tool" always there to switch from picking to moving. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 --- Comment #4 from 和尚蟹 --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3) Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, Math, Base, all use this design. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121480] Add generalized Pan control at point of selection -- i.e. a Hand tool
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||armin.le.gr...@me.com, ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org, ||rb.hensc...@t-online.de, ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu Summary|Add Hand tool |Add generalized Pan control ||at point of selection -- ||i.e. a Hand tool Ever confirmed|0 |1 Keywords||needsUXEval Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW --- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote --- The Draw module already has the Zoom & Pan control (View -> Zoom), where +LMouse click activates pan control for dragging view at the point of selection. Could see utility of that behavior if possible to implement in other modules, i.e. if it is not specialized to the Draw canvas. Otherwise while the vertical and horizontal scroll bars do implement Pan controls, because the point of selection is at the canvas edge the cursor has to be moved away from work onto the scroll bar--so repositioning of the pan can end up imprecise, especially when used with longer documents as noted. Implementing a common a Pan control--the ubiquitous Hand icon--acting at the point of selection for all modules seems reasonable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
