[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2018-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Commit Notification  changed:

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   |target:5.3.0.1 target:6.0.0 |target:5.3.0.1 target:6.0.0
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2018-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #62 from Commit Notification 
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Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-6-0":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=11d0e4d946950204fd9f1d23f206b91e8326388e=libreoffice-6-0

tdf#105000, related tdf#80196: Make new color names translatable

It will be available in 6.0.2.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2018-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Commit Notification  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2018-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #61 from Commit Notification 
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Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=8901c7c7bc4db5076a615ef942af6fb65e943ee3

tdf#105000, related tdf#80196: Make new color names translatable

It will be available in 6.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2017-09-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #60 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #59)
> Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue.
>...

This patch moves the percentage from the beginning of the color names to the
end, like from "83% Green" to "Green 83%". This was necessary for the upcoming
localization of color names.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2017-09-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #59 from Commit Notification 
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Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=50a210d48b7db47eaaafeb5520bd796d8e690346

tdf#105000, related tdf#80196: Make new color names translatable

It will be available in 6.0.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2017-09-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Commit Notification  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #58 from Commit Notification 
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V Stuart Foote committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-5-3":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=792d7d29688a0273f346a9baa23d415a7f8f55d8=libreoffice-5-3

tdf#80196 - rename palette to tonal.soc and adjusting names

It will be available in 5.3.0.1.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Commit Notification  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-12-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-12-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #57 from Commit Notification 
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V Stuart Foote committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=98419425080f58880f2d0d85749a4a55e8abb40b

tdf#80196 - another attempt at renaming to tonal.soc and adjusting names

It will be available in 5.4.0.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #56 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #55)
> Actually looked around for how palette folks refer to "Out of gamut"
> warnings. 

Then we should write it out. Worst case is "73% Char Green (Out of Gamut)" or
"73% Chartreuse Green (Out of Gamut)". This will likely not crash the display
manager.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #55 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Actually looked around for how palette folks refer to "Out of gamut" warnings. 

Some hyphenated, some italicized but no standard and technically here we are
not saturated in sRGB--but "out of gamut" for this tonal palette, so
abbreviated.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #54 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #53)
> renamed to tonal.soc and adjusted abbreviations
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/31136/

OoGamut? Wouldn't 'saturated' be adequate? Or at least without the "Oo".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #53 from V Stuart Foote  ---

renamed to tonal.soc and adjusted abbreviations
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/31136/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #52 from V Stuart Foote  ---
could change the name from tonal_column.soc to tonal.soc and maybe adjust the
abbreviations if folks really object. Otherwise this is in place. 

Version: 5.3.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 0de1b34a89a5bafa87a031da7e53e902ec14312c
CPU Threads: 1; OS Version: Linux 4.4; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; Layout
Engine: new; 
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86@71-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-11-22_11:44:11
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #51 from Tomaz Vajngerl  ---
Ah, OK - I understand now. Would be nice if we wouldn't need placeholders but
yeah.. that's not possible ATM.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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 Blocks||104118


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104118
[Bug 104118] [META] Color palette bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #50 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Tomaz Vajngerl from comment #48)
> Some values are strange or duplicated - I would remove them
> 

Tomaž, please review attachment 101316 -- what I've done here is provided
placeholders in our 12 column swatch picker that retains the hue based columnar
layout of the source color table.

Each column shows a single color hue in increasing graytone (e.g. reduced
black) scale.

While the row based alignment might have been more complete (keeping the
graytone scale values aligned with the corresponding color values, it required
a lot more "place holders" and wasn't the best UX, nor visually appealing.

Without the placeholder--or if the a single color value has the same label--the
swatch picker currently removes the color swatch and destroys the chart like
layout achieved.

I took the names/labels for the colors from the Wade and Owen Genat's
work--where labeling each hue with its graytone percentage is obvious. But the
color abbreviations for the place holders are a little wonky. Violet -> Vi,
Azure -> Az,  Spring Green -> SG,  Chartreuse Green -> CG, Orange -> Or and
Rose -> Ro but they have to have distinct labels. No reason not to give them a
label appropriate to the color column they represent--so keeping the percentage
and the color and add saturated.  Each could have a more concise label, even
drop saturated as Heiko suggested. 

First round I'd just labeled each "Saturated", but the swatch picker filters
them out that way--and each would have to have a different color to use the
same label.

> 100% Grey  - #FF
> 
> or in other words "pure" black

you of course meant "white", and the place holders are blanked to white as well
(#FE) to represent them as "saturated" since the hue couldn't be shown nor
represented in sRGB.  I suspect that with the way some of the "dark" DE
inverting the whites and blacks you might be confused.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #49 from Tomaz Vajngerl  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #47)
> (In reply to Commit Notification from comment #46)
> > vsfoote committed a patch related to this issue.
> 
> When is it necessary to change Package_palettes.mk? Haven't done it for the
> other patches from bugs 104053, 104052, 104051, 104050, 104048, and in
> particular 104047.

I think this is needed for packaging. If you don't specify this the palettes
won't be copied to share folder and won't be available in the installation.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #48 from Tomaz Vajngerl  ---
Some values are strange or duplicated - I would remove them

100% Grey  - #FF

or in other words "pure" black

other examples:

82% Blue saturated - #FE
82% Az saturated   - #FE
82% SG saturated   - #FE
...
This values are black (or just one value from black) and duplicated

and:

65% Green saturated - #FE
65% Red saturated   - #FE
...

black - but 65% saturated? I don't think so.. this is strange

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #47 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #46)
> vsfoote committed a patch related to this issue.

When is it necessary to change Package_palettes.mk? Haven't done it for the
other patches from bugs 104053, 104052, 104051, 104050, 104048, and in
particular 104047.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #46 from Commit Notification 
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vsfoote committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=5c12939540fafb02de2f8c91a3022f9e16a1e38f

tdf#80196 - Standardized color palette normalized by graytone

It will be available in 5.3.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #45 from Commit Notification 
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V Stuart Foote committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=2bea44c420c3d2dcc55504c3922aea8562a35db8

Revert "tdf#80196 - Standardize color palette using mathematically generated
colors"

It will be available in 5.3.0.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #44 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The column based color chart based on Wade's original ODG, attachment 101316,
is up for review...

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/31061/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #43 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #42)
> Created attachment 128930 [details]
> tonal_col
> 
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #41)
> > 
> > But completely looses the beauty/utility of the palette--white at top for
> > out of gamut colors is _functional_, not decorative!
> 
> Functional because you have the choice between 20 white? Here is what I mean.

No, functional because the position of the blanks has symbolic meaning to the
color table they represent. 

Fortunately the new Area fill dialog shows the whole palette. But the 12x7 (or
12x8 as yours shows) of the swatch picker crops the color table. 

With your suggested inverted layout, after the gray scale in the 1st row--the
2nd and 3rd rows of 10% and 20% values are not of much use. It positions the
30% values in the 4th row, while cutting off view of the more useful 73% and
82% level Magenta, Cyan and Yellow. They are less significant/useful colors so
invert and position 10% and 20% to the bottom where it does not matter if they
are not always visible. The blanks in the upper rows have relative meaning.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #42 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 128930
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128930=edit
tonal_col

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #41)
> 
> But completely looses the beauty/utility of the palette--white at top for
> out of gamut colors is _functional_, not decorative!

Functional because you have the choice between 20 white? Here is what I mean.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #41 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #40)
> Putting whitespace in the top rows makes reduces the usable space. Inverting
> the palette and starting with dark colors at top provides more space to
> usable colors.

But completely looses the beauty/utility of the palette--white at top for out
of gamut colors is _functional_, not decorative!

This full palette is visible in the swatch picker and quite functional--reverse
the colors and it becomes a mess.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #40 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #38)
> No, the whitespace here is actually appropriate for the blank swatches...

Putting whitespace in the top rows makes reduces the usable space. Inverting
the palette and starting with dark colors at top provides more space to usable
colors.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #39 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 128928
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128928=edit
Wade's original color table normalized by graytone

With a 12 column layout we lose the gray scale <--> color hue equivalancy--but
note the 0% colors are all the same and the 91% and 100% values are saturated
out of the sRGB gamut.  Color swatches for those three rows can be omitted for
use in the UI.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #38 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #37)
> ...
> Looks very similar to me, both are really nice. If we go with the column
> variant I suggest to invert and start with dark colors in order to have less
> (literally) whitespace by default.

No, the whitespace here is actually appropriate for the blank swatches--it
represents an sRGB color that would be saturated and clipped as out of gamut
for the color space. I've just assigned a default #FE to each place holder.

Also, while the Hue by row presentation includes the 0% and the 91% values (all
black) with the columnar layout I've removed them.

The only loss is a visual ability to equate gray scale to a Percentage value
for a color hue--where the gray scale 0 - 100% aligned over each of the hues. 
A reasonable trade off to have a clean UI with our limited swatch picker.

If the swatch picker could be to enhanced to read a layout value (count of grid
columns) from the SOC file and expand to 13 columns--the gray scale could be
included as a column.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #37 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 128927
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128927=edit
tonal_row

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #35)
> I think this is going to be more visually appealing UI...

Looks very similar to me, both are really nice. If we go with the column
variant I suggest to invert and start with dark colors in order to have less
(literally) whitespace by default.

Adding a screenshot of the tonal palette in rows for the lazy ones.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #36 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 128926
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128926=edit
clip of suggested tonal_column.soc in the Swatch picker

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #35 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 128925
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128925=edit
layout in columns for better UX in swatch picker

@Wade, Owen, *

Here is a reworked layout of the palette as .SOC, just copy it into the
$ORIGIN/share/palette directory to test. 

I've reordered this back into a columnar layout, with the gray scale as the top
row and then picking up the colors in columns.  I've inserted blanks to hold
the layout to fit our default 12 column swatch picker.

I think this is going to be more visually appealing UI for folks to pick colors
while maintaining Wade's technical goal.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #34 from Commit Notification 
 ---
Owen Genat committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6f3bf1cdc48b62caec1e54a6aa6db41b4a56d1c4

tdf#80196 - Standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

It will be available in 5.3.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #33 from Francisco  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #32)
Hi all,

> So my suggestion is:
> * remove cmyk, gallery, html, palette, web
> * add this "tonal" palette here, when the names are improved 
> (design only easyhack), but also add Breeze colors 
> (https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/HIG/Color)

I actually erased those palettes from my config folder. The point that they
have no "natural" name isn't the only problem but they are also cluttered.

Furthermore, I like the smaller color palettes but I found a fault on them:
colors look unsorted. Thus, from my user perspective I'd recommend to order in
columns (or rows) the colors any palette. For example, in this "tonal.soc",
there are some white spaces in order to maintain some consistency with the
tones. Any other color palette should 

> When I stated 'unnamed' the text is "10-255-76" or "100%24%4%" or
> "255,44,76". The X11 colors are nice, thanks for the reference.

As Heiko already knows, I recently coded an app in Fortran 90 that generates a
color palette based on 12 RGB base colors. One could use, for example, the
branding LibO colors, or Tango or Breeze, to generate a palette. 

The way it does it's maybe suboptimal (Tomaž sugested to use HSL instead RGB
coordinates) but it works. Of course, more work could be putted on it.

For the ones interested, the code is in 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4KD0YqmpaatRGVlVngyRFgwZ0U

and an example screenshot is in:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Paleta_generada.png

Sadly, mi app doesn't name colors other than its position on the matrix
(Emphasis 1, 2, etc.). But I've been thinking on how automatically name picked
colors. 
Maybe my head is quite a block, but It's simpler for me to think about RBG
coordinates, which are in a cubic space. Thus, one could assign dummy names for
specific spaces in the RGB cube. Thus, the name of a picked color inside the
space R < 10, G < 10, B < 100 could be something like "Dark blue". Nothing
special, of course! And all the space RGB should be covered. But as a result
all colors would have a _nicer_ name.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #32 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #30)
> Maybe an idea to ping people that worked on the various previous changes?

Pinged Christoph and KJ. Not sure who else (Astron perhaps, but at least Tin
Man has changed priorities; talked to him in Brno).

(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #31)
> Having an "html"-palette is not bad and the names are not "strangely", see
> the definitions in
> https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/, section 4.3. Extended color keywords

When I stated 'unnamed' the text is "10-255-76" or "100%24%4%" or "255,44,76".
The X11 colors are nice, thanks for the reference.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Regina Henschel  changed:

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--- Comment #31 from Regina Henschel  ---
Having an "html"-palette is not bad and the names are not "strangely", see the
definitions in
https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/, section 4.3. Extended color keywords

But we need to verify, that the values and names are really exactly as
standardized in CSS (and SVG). And they should not be translated, because they
are keywords.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

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--- Comment #30 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #29)

> So my suggestion is:
> [...]

Maybe an idea to ping people that worked on the various previous changes?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #29 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Back to NEW, we need a decision here. I like the idea of mathematically
generated colors. But we should also think about cleaning up what we have. 

* cmyk: 216 unnamed colors in tiny steps that looks like a replacement for the
rgb input
* gallery: 61 colors w. gray scale, yellow to red, pink to violett, light blue
to dark blue, green, brown/ocker; unnamed
* html: 131 colors similar to "gallery" but finer grained; strangely named like
"ghostwhite F8F8FF 248.248.255"
* libreoffice: the branding colors + black & white; with (improvable) names
* palette: 77 darker red, green and blue colors; unnamed
* scribus: 545 named colors, guess for compatibility
* standard: Symphony based palette in 10x12 colors plus "nice", pale and chart
colors; well named
* tango: 27 named colors from tango
* web: 232 unnamed greenish, reddish and blueish colors
(document, + user, + recently used)

(named = "Red" instead of "255,0,0")

So my suggestion is:
* remove cmyk, gallery, html, palette, web
* add this "tonal" palette here, when the names are improved (design only
easyhack), but also add Breeze colors
(https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/HIG/Color)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2016-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Björn Michaelsen  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|difficultyBeginner, |
   |easyHack, topicUI   |
 Status|NEW |UNCONFIRMED
URL||http://www.evolutionarydesi
   ||gns.net/blog/2010/08/27/col
   ||or-palette-generators/
  Component|LibreOffice |ux-advise
 Ever confirmed|1   |0

--- Comment #27 from Björn Michaelsen  ---
(In reply to Jan Holesovsky from comment #25)
> This pre-dates the rework of the color picker, now it is much easier to add
> external palettes.

Right. Removing EasyHack status for now, as there is quite a bit of discussion,
ambiguity and complexity in this (as witnessed by > 20 comments). Also moving
this to UNCONFIRMED/ux-advise for now.

And with that, just leaving:
http://www.evolutionarydesigns.net/blog/2010/08/27/color-palette-generators/
here too, which links various online palette generators, that might either be
used for inspiration or integration.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2015-11-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

Jan Holesovsky  changed:

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  Component|ux-advise   |LibreOffice
 Whiteboard|BSA |easyHack DifficultyBeginner
   ||TopicUI

--- Comment #25 from Jan Holesovsky  ---
This pre-dates the rework of the color picker, now it is much easier to add
external palettes.

For the moment, we do not want to include this palette as the default, but
happy to add it as an alternate one.  It is enough to add the .soc file to
extras/source/palettes/ and add it to extras/Package_palettes.mk

Wade: Do you think you can create a patch for this, and push it to gerrit?

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #22 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to comment #19)

  3) An example is the EG 1:1990 “Alignment Color Bar Test Signal for
  Television Picture Monitors”. [...] Find “EG 1:1990” in the list; you should
  be able to download it at no cost. Note: this is an older analog TV standard
  that they now make available at no charge.
 
 I can see the entry in the search list, but it does not appear to be free
 (US$50.00 showing here). Standards that are not freely available make it
 more difficult for others to implement. Many documents have author /
 publisher copyright but are still made freely available. This applies to
 points (9) and (12) also. A patent is a much more significant issue than
 copyright, although I sincerely doubt a palette in different arrangement. 


That’s interesting.  I was able to download the EG 1:1990 standard for free. 
The copy I received had a copyright notice (plus surplusage) that reads:
“Downloaded by guest on 2014-08-20 from IP 71.216.229.113 @ SMPTE All Rights
Reserved.”

I did a reverse lookup on the IP address from mxtoolbox.com, and it showed my
correct location of 44.98 -93.2638 (Hennepin County Library in Minneapolis,
Minnesota USA).

-Wade

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #23 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to comment #21)
 Created attachment 105129 [details]
 Screenshot of color picker using row-based SOC.
 
 Relates to attachment 105128 [details].

Greytone organized from left to right is okay with me.

Congratulations Owen!  From what I can tell, you're now the proud parent of the
world's first internationally recognized color palette standard which is
organized by greytone!

-Wade

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #24 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #19)
 A patent is a much more significant issue than
 copyright, although I sincerely doubt a palette in different arrangement

... would be affected. I forgot to finish this sentence.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #13 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #12)
 Could you create a .soc palette with 10 columns ...

The colour picker was changed in v4.2 (bug 67653) to use 12 columns (to bring
it in-line with AOO) and under v4.3 and v4.4 it still uses this layout. To get
similar tonal values aligning in columns (for this specialised palette) will
require additional filler swatches.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

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--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
@Krisztian, you've been deeply into this code of late for your GSOC project.
Any thoughts?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 105105
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SOC example, using fillers for missing values

(In reply to comment #13)
 The colour picker was changed in v4.2 (bug 67653) to use 12 columns (to
 bring it in-line with AOO) and under v4.3 and v4.4 it still uses this
 layout. To get similar tonal values aligning in columns (for this
 specialised palette) will require additional filler swatches.

Here is a thrown together example SOC file. I have made the additional filler
swatches (at bottom) as dark as possible to ensure they are clearly
distinguishable from the above palette values. Each filler swatch is also named
in an abbreviated manner for clarity. Note that instead of Gray I have used
White for the monochromatic series as a pale grey being labelled as 90%
White seems clearer than 90% Gray. I have also placed the monochrome series
at top, in order to make it easier to distinguish Black and the darker grey
swatches from the filler swatches.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 105106
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Screenshot of color picker using the provided SOC.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #17 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
@ Owen Genat screenshot of color picker

(In reply to comment #16)
 Created attachment 105106 [details]
 Screenshot of color picker using the provided SOC.

I think you're close.  It would work better if the grey scale tones between
BLACK (0% grey) and WHITE (100% grey) were aligned with the color grey scale
values.  If you choose the same values that were in my chart it would mean 12
rows and 13 columns (or, alternatively 13 rows and 12 columns if you do in the
other direction).  My diagram uses twelve (12) color vectors plus grey, but you
could go with 3, 6, 12, 24, 48, etc.

You can see the idea better if you print out your color picker on a black and
white laser printer.  That's something akin to how a person with a color
deficiency might see them, too.  The lighter tones for all the colors should
line up with the corresponding grey tone.  That will give the color deficient
person, as well as the graphic artists designing colors for BW printers, a
fighting chance to make their documents look good.

In fact, I use the color palette to evaluate laser printers.  For example, a
Xerox Phaser 5500 produces a substantially different grey tone pattern (and
color rendition) than a Lexmark M1145.  I don't know for sure, but I suspect
this might be because of their toner powder or their color calibration.  Also,
most of the laser printers are weighted toward the blue end of the scale.  That
means that blues turn out black.  That's not done on purpose; its a problem for
them -- a remnant of their technology.

I'm looking at the standard color palette in much the same way as television
color bars.  In fact, I'll most a comparison so that you can see how that
works.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #18 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
Date: 22 AUG 2014
From: Wade D. Peterson, Silicore Corportion
To:   File
Subj: Comparative analysis using television color bars

Subject: comparative analysis between television color bars and the proposed
grey scale color palette.

Description: this is a comparative analysis.  It describes how a television
color bar standard is applied in the broadcast television industry.  This is
not a proposal; rather it's a way to compare and contrast the proposed grey
scale color palette to a similar technology used in another field.

Talking points:

1) Color bar test patterns are used in the broadcast television industry as a
quality control tool for the purpose of calibrating people, equipment and
systems.  For example, they are used to align color television sets.

2) There is a Wiki at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_bars

3) An example is the EG 1:1990 “Alignment Color Bar Test Signal for Television
Picture Monitors”.  It is published by The Society of Motion Picture and
Television Engineers.  A free pdf archive document can be obtained by
accessing: http://standards.smpte.org/, and then doing a search for “color
bars”.  [I can't post it myself on this thread because of copyright
violations].  Find “EG 1:1990” in the list; you should be able to download it
at no cost.  Note: this is an older analog TV standard that they now make
available at no charge.

4) Figure 2 of the EG 1:1990 shows the how the alignment color bars are
documented in a standard.  This standard is used for the NTSC television
signal.

5) The exact colors such as “YELLOW”, “GREEN” or “RED” are not explicitly
shown.  Instead, they represent saturated electronic signals.

6) The color bars are generally broadcast in conjunction with a 1,000 Hz audio
tone.  This allows the volume level and audio distortion to be calibrated too.

7) In preparation for a television show, the 'bars and tone' (as they are
known) are first broadcast from the studio.  Technicians monitor the signal at
various points along the signal path.  This includes camera equipment;
amplifiers; microwave links; cabling; television transmitters; receivers and TV
sets.

8) The bars and tone are used in two different ways, depending on the
equipment.  A color bar ‘card’ is used to align television cameras.  The camera
is focused on the standard (printed) card, and the output signal is inspected
with an oscilloscope to see if it’s capturing the correct colors in its output
signal.  A color bar ‘pattern generator’ is used to align the rest of the
television network.  The pattern generator produces a standard color signal,
which is then connected to the TV network.  Technicians throughout the network
inspect their signals with an oscilloscope and calibrate their equipment
accordingly.

9) The EG 1:1990 is copyrighted by The Society of Motion Picture and Television
Engineers.

10) Colors themselves are not offered copyright protection in the United
States, or the rest of the world under the Berne convention.

11) A pattern of colors is copyrightable (much like a color photograph) so long
as it expresses an idea, and it takes some level of originality to create it. 
The Courts sometimes use the “sweat of the brow” test to determine this.  That
is, if it took some “sweat of the brow” to make it, then copyright protection
is afforded.

12) The Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) has an
intellectual property policy statement at:
https://www.smpte.org/sites/default/files/SMPTE_IP_Policy_2013-08.pdf

13) Section 9.3 of the SMPTE policy is the Copyright Policy.  It says: “The
Society shall own the copyrights of all Engineering Documents and Registered
Disclosure Documents, whether in draft or published form.”

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #17)
 I think you're close.  It would work better if the grey scale tones between
 BLACK (0% grey) and WHITE (100% grey) were aligned with the color grey scale
 values.  If you choose the same values that were in my chart it would mean
 12 rows and 13 columns (or, alternatively 13 rows and 12 columns if you do
 in the other direction).  My diagram uses twelve (12) color vectors plus
 grey, but you could go with 3, 6, 12, 24, 48, etc.

Thanks for clarifying the naming of the monochrome scale. It is not going to be
possible to change the layout of the colour picker from 12 to 13 columns, so we
are going to have to use a row-per-hue (rather than column-per-hue) layout for
this palette if all the scales are to run in the same direction. This is
actually simpler for palette creation as a hue  tone (rather than tone  hue)
order in XML entries makes more sense IMO. Most palettes tend to have a greater
number of hues than tones.

(In reply to comment #18)
 2) There is a Wiki at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_bars

Here in Australia we use the PM5544 (PAL) test pattern:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testcard

... in place of the NTSC one, which you indicate later under point (4).

 3) An example is the EG 1:1990 “Alignment Color Bar Test Signal for
 Television Picture Monitors”. [...] Find “EG 1:1990” in the list; you should
 be able to download it at no cost. Note: this is an older analog TV standard
 that they now make available at no charge.

I can see the entry in the search list, but it does not appear to be free
(US$50.00 showing here). Standards that are not freely available make it more
difficult for others to implement. Many documents have author / publisher
copyright but are still made freely available. This applies to points (9) and
(12) also. A patent is a much more significant issue than copyright, although I
sincerely doubt a palette in different arrangement. 

 10) Colors themselves are not offered copyright protection in the United
 States, or the rest of the world under the Berne convention.

LO can use generic colour names, e.g., 58% Magenta or Pinkish-purple 123.
Branded colour names are however only likely to be usable under license, e.g.,
Pantone 630 C. This issue would not appear to affect this palette but IANAL.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 105128
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SOC palette using rows instead of columns.

Here is a reorganised version of the previous SOC file. Each column now aligns
with a percentage saturation value. The monochrome scale has been renamed as
requested but still sits at the top. Filler swatches have been renamed for
greater consistency, with a new initial entry (0%) that is dark and higher
entries (50%+) that are now pale.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 105129
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Screenshot of color picker using row-based SOC.

Relates to attachment 105128.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80196

--- Comment #12 from Fabian Alexander Wilms f.alexander.wi...@gmail.com ---
Could you create a .soc palette with 10 columns (see color picker design:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/attachments/download/138/color-picker.png)
based on your calculations? That way people could get a feeling for it and
decide if it would work well as default palette.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
Regardless of whether this proposal becomes the default palette I do feel it
would be good to have this tonal / standardised palette available. The
percentage naming (rather than subjective naming) of hues is much clearer and
important for the role this palette fulfills e.g., 64% Magenta vs Magenta
4. Excellent work Wade. Thank you for sharing. Very interesting.

(In reply to comment #4)
 There's also a lack of light options.

I agree, but attachment 101316 indicates a subtractive rather than additive
approach to creating a palette i.e., emulation of CMYK using RGB. In simple
terms this is why it works the way it does in practice. This is a specialised
palette targeting interoperability that I feel would be a great asset to LO.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
Created attachment 104623
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Spreadsheet for generating color vectors of a specified greytone

A LibreOffice Calc '.ods' (spreadsheet) file for generating color vectors of a
specified greytone.  Instructions are provided inside the spreadsheet.  This
spreadsheet has been injected into the public domain.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
Talking points about a color palette organized according to gray scale (a.k.a.
gray tone, or luminance contrast):

1) In the human visual system, color recognition is secondary to gray scale
recognition.  The following quotes from Marmor and Ravin (2009) describe the
role of color during visual processing in the brain:

“Thus, the color information has already been segregated from the more basic
(evolutionarily older) mechanisms of perception, which are effectively
color-blind.  The bottom line is that we need luminance (brightness)
differences to optimally recognize shapes, faces, depth, and movement.”  (p.
55)

“To summarize, color alone will not function effectively to represent objects
(or depth), unless it also provides realistic luminance contrast.  Most
representational artists recognize light and dark aspects of the paintings
accordingly, such as in Raphael's Renaissance painting 'A Lady with Unicorn'.”
(p. 57)


2) The most common form of color blindness is a red-green color deficiency, and
is typically found in men.  These people tend to see colors as shades of blue
and yellow.  According to Marmor and Ravin (2009):

“Red-green color deficiency affects 8 to 10 percent of males, so it is not
uncommon.”  (p. 88)


3) People with a color deficiency tend to rely on gray scale color recognition.
 According to Marmor and Ravin (2009):

“Because colors are less subjectively intense, the color-deficient person – and
artist – tends to be more sensitive to subtle lights and darks which may be
obscured by colors that distract our attention (as in camouflage).”  (p. 89)

“When asked about colors in the countryside, he [Jens, an artist with a
red-green color deficiency] responded: 'Well mostly these are known, and my
mind tells me one thing and my eyes another.  Essentially I am seeing a lot of
contrast.  I like things with contrast in them.'” (p. 90)


4) Ansel Adams, a well-known American landscape photographer who worked
exclusively with black-and-white images, relied on the 'Zone System' for his
photographs. This system divided an image into eleven (11) gray tone levels
between black and white.


5) Many people print color images on black-and-white printers.


6) Many technical artists design their images so that they can still be useful
(recognizable) when printed on black-and-white printers.


7) A color palette organized according to a gray tone scale is the easiest way
to mentally convert a color image to a monochrome image.  This allows the
graphic artist to more easily design color works that will still look good when
printed on a black-and-white printer.


Cite:
Marmor, Michael F. and James G. Ravin.  The Artists Eyes : Vision and the
History of Art.  Abrams, 2009.  ISBN: 978-0-8109-4849-5

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Mirek2 maz...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 Perhaps same request as Bug 42159 or Bug 37480. Or hex color picker: Bug
 44366

No, it's not the same request. This bug is regarding the default color palette.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Mirek2 maz...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 Created attachment 101316 [details]
 LibreOffice '.odg' file showing recommended color palette
 
 The current color palette used by LibreOffice is not reproducible across a
 range of display monitor brands, types and settings (e.g. LCD vs. CRT),
 printer brands, types and settings (e.g. laser vs. ink jet) and software
 type (e.g. native LibreOffice '.odg' vs. 'pdf').
 
 Recommend using the standard color palette shown in the attached file:
 RgbColorVectors_18JUN2014.odg  Page 1 shows the color palette; page 2
 shows the mathematics used to generate the palette; page 3 shows two
 representative color wheels.
 
 The advantage of this color palette is that it is independent of display
 monitor, printer and software technology.  This is the same color palette
 that many manufacturers use to test their products.  It will never go
 obsolete so long as 256-bit RGB color vectors are used.

That's true, and it's also incredibly easy to implement.

However, I'm thinking the reason that it's not used is because the colors
aren't very pleasant to look at (at least the fully saturated colors can be
quite an eyesore). There's also a lack of light options. Those are just my
initial observations, though -- it'd be good to see some research on this.

Could you make an example document showcasing these colors? I'd be especially
curious about how well they work in charts.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
Created attachment 104569
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Version compatibility problems with color palette on OpenOffice

The OpenOffice drawing file showing examples of how the color palettes changed
between version 3.4.1 and 4.0.1.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
Created attachment 104570
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Standard color palette that I've adopted for my documents

This is the standard color palette that I've adopted for my documents.  My
documents are heavily used by electronic engineers, and so it's based on the
electronic color code, where the numerals '0' - '9' are assigned a color.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
Created attachment 104571
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A document example showing how I use colors

This is a document in '.pdf' format that shows how I use my color palette.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Wade D. Peterson wadep_silic...@yahoo.com ---
@ Mirek2 example document

The color palette I proposed is intended to solve device compatibility and
software longevity issues.  It's an objective compromise to a solve a problem
that is inherently subjective to every person.  It will always be necessary to
allow a user to make his or her own colors.  In fact, it is doubtful that any
two graphic artists would agree on the best choice of colors.

For example, the color brown is almost impossible to match between devices.  If
you have to use brown, then you will probably need to adjust the color mixture
so that it looks good on your monitor.  However, be prepared to have your
'brown' look more orange or red on other devices.

I've attached some examples for your consideration:

 OpenOfficeColorPalette_08DEC2013.odg  shows color palette compatibility
problems between different versions of OpenOffice.

 StandardColorPalette_06MAY2014.odg  shows the standard color palette that
I've adopted in my line of work.  I wouldn't expect others to like it, as it's
intended to be used by electronics engineers.

 WbBridge_28MAR2012.pdf  shows a '.pdf' example of a document that I created
in my line of work.  These documents sometimes take two or three years to
complete, so any change of color palette during revision changes is annoying.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-08-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from ign_christian ign_christ...@yahoo.com ---
Perhaps same request as Bug 42159 or Bug 37480. Or hex color picker: Bug 44366

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-06-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
  Component|Libreoffice |ux-advise

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 80196] standardize color palette using mathematically generated colors

2014-06-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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tommy27 ba...@quipo.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 CC||ba...@quipo.it
Summary|Other: Product enhancement: |standardize color palette
   |standardize color palette   |using mathematically
   |using mathmatically |generated colors
   |generated colors|
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it ---
enhancement request. status NEW

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