[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 --- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #9) > Would add that the Win11 WDM handles scrollbars oddly. Note that there are *some* Windows apps that behave *properly* with regards to "Always show scroll bars" setting (outside of contrast themes). E.g.: the "Settings" app itself; and notepad.exe. So, our implementation of scrollbars behavior wrt that setting must follow these apps' behavior. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 --- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote --- Would add that the Win11 WDM handles scrollbars oddly. In fact, if you use one of the Win11 Settings -> "Contrast Themes" [1], the scrollbars are fully exposed including the arrow movement buttons on their ends. That is regardless of setting of the "Always show scroll bars" Off (slider default) or On. But LO's handling of the scrollbar visual collapse (and dropping of the movement arrows) needs some effort. The control should respond in some fashion. =-ref-= [1] Aquatic, Desert, Dusk, Night Sky -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Michael Weghorn changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||60251 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60251 [Bug 60251] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking Windows OS accessibility and AT issues -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Michael Weghorn changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sarah_davie...@hotmail.com --- Comment #8 from Michael Weghorn --- *** Bug 160241 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||accessibility CC||vsfo...@libreoffice.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16 ||0241 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 --- Comment #7 from Oliver --- Actually this bug is independent from the "Always show scrollbard" option : in Windows 11, the arrows of the scrollbars are always hidden, but in all other programmes I have tested (e.g. Firefox, Thunderbird, Zotero, Notepad++), when hovering over the scrollbar, the locations of the arrows become visible. This is not working in Libreoffice. I have tested in 7.5.9.2 , windows 11 (this is really specific to windows 11, there is no such problem in windows 10) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval |implementationError Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64) |All Priority|low |medium CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org, ||mikekagan...@hotmail.com --- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze --- W11 behavior is to show the arrows where ever you hover, at the arrow itself or at the ruler/thumb. So yes, it's a implementation error. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Michael Warner changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|101912 | Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101912 [Bug 101912] [META] Accessibility (a11y) bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Michael Warner changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|trivial |normal -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Michael Warner changed: What|Removed |Added OS|All |Windows (All) Hardware|All |x86-64 (AMD64) Blocks||103303, 101912 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101912 [Bug 101912] [META] Accessibility (a11y) bugs and enhancements https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103303 [Bug 103303] [META] Desktop integration bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Michael Warner changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #5 from Michael Warner --- As a user I would not expect this behavior. Based on Timur's comment 2 that he sees this behavior as reported, I will mark as new. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 QA Administrators changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|1 |0 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 --- Comment #4 from QA Administrators --- [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 --- Comment #3 from Alistair Saywell --- I think it is a bug because: 1. All other applications show the arrows when the scroll bar is hovered over. LO shows the arrow only if the **arrows themselves** are hovered over. You have to know exactly where the arrows are before you can see them (by hovering), Catch 22. It is a tiny area compared to hovering over scroll bar. 2. When the scroll bar is set to always visible in Windows *Start > Settings > Accessibility > Scroll bars* in LO the arrows are still invisible until hovered. Other apps show the scroll bar with arrows all the time with this setting. Does it affect functionality? Not too much if you know where the arrows are by long use or use other methods, but for new or intermediate users it could represent a stumbling block. Cheers,Al -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|medium |low Severity|normal |trivial Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #2 from Timur --- I see this in W11 as reported but I don't confirm the bug. I understand this option differently, to hide the whole scrollbar. Reported are just arrows being seen only when hovered. Why would that be a bug? Affecting work in any way? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151238] Windows 11 Scroll bar arrows hidden when set visible
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151238 --- Comment #1 from Timur --- If I understood this, then I didn't reproduce in W10. Needs to be checked in W11. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
