[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106852] no keyboard shortcut for 'paste values' in Calc

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--- Comment #17 from Commit Notification 
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Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/b07fa5671de64fda47c2ad1a40814f56e07ddcaf

tdf#106852 (related) Remove stray manual button label

It will be available in 7.2.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106852] no keyboard shortcut for 'paste values' in Calc

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--- Comment #16 from Gabor Kelemen  ---
This was fixed with the new design added in bug #134802

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 134802 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106852] no keyboard shortcut for 'paste values' in Calc

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--- Comment #15 from geo...@ursa.org ---
I don't have it installed right now, but I think Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V was added
months ago as a shortcut for paste values.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106852] no keyboard shortcut for 'paste values' in Calc

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--- Comment #14 from j...@curioussymbols.com ---
@V Stuart Foote
I see no reason why the "values only" and "values and formats" options, which
deserve a (needlessly graphical) button for some reason don't get a keyboard
accelerator. Those options are common, typical things that we need. Why can't
they also be easy to use with the keyboard?

Still a bug!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106852] no keyboard shortcut for 'paste values' in Calc

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--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 154712
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PasteSpecial dialog on Windows builds at 6.3.2, accelerators assigned

(In reply to john from comment #12)
> Comment 11 is not correct. To see the problematic behaviour, you have to
> first select a range of cells in Calc. Then you will see the problematic
> dialog box, for which there is NO selection list, and no keybinding to paste
> values.
> 
> This new Paste Special dialog/menu is a complete hodgepodge. Compare with
> the simplicity of this dialog:
> https://is.gd/cFnOKG
> 

Current 6.3.2 release PasteSpecial dialog. Not seeing your issue.

Launch'd by shortcut with +V

Or alternatively via Main menu Accelerators +E,S,S

Dialog is fully populated with accelerators. Just the 3 action buttons "Values
only", "Values & Formulas", "Transpose" have no accelerators in the GUI.  But
they are eye candy for pointer or touch use.

=> WFM

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--- Comment #12 from j...@curioussymbols.com ---
Comment 11 is not correct. To see the problematic behaviour, you have to first
select a range of cells in Calc. Then you will see the problematic dialog box,
for which there is NO selection list, and no keybinding to paste values.

This new Paste Special dialog/menu is a complete hodgepodge. Compare with the
simplicity of this dialog:
https://is.gd/cFnOKG

Ctrl-V -- default paste behaviour
Alt-E-S -- paste special behaviour

Just one more Alt-XXX keystroke to select which special paste you want, all of
them are visually discoverable, only one path to each option, no multiple
paths.

The current solution needlessly breaks the Alt-E-S keystroke, and unnecessarily
provides multiple paths to achieving the same results.

PS "paste numbers" is not the same as "paste values".

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--- Comment #11 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to john from comment #10)
> (Alt-E-S no longer presents the dialog). There are still no key-bindings on
> the graphical buttons at the top of the Paste Special dialog.
> 
At 6.3.1.2 on Windows builds, the Paste Special reuses the 'S': 

So keyboard accelerators of +E+S+S open the 'Paste Special' dialog with
focus control on the list box.

=> WFM

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--- Comment #10 from j...@curioussymbols.com ---
This issue is still present, although there are now additional options in the
Edit->Paste Special sub-menu, making it easier to quickly paste values
(Alt-E-S-V), but making it harder to get the more complete set of options
(Alt-E-S no longer presents the dialog). There are still no key-bindings on the
graphical buttons at the top of the Paste Special dialog.

Version: 6.2.6.2
Build ID: 1:6.2.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; 
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #9 from Buovjaga  ---
*** Bug 120032 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #8 from j...@curioussymbols.com ---
PS the shortcut for the 'divide' operation in the dialog would also need to be
removed/changed.

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--- Comment #7 from j...@curioussymbols.com ---
My suggestion:

* modify the dialog so that the 'values only' and 'values and formats' buttons
are accompanied by text labels with the 'V' and 'O' shortcuts.

* remove the 'Transpose' button; there is already a 'transpose' checkbox, and
this is an occasional-use operation, I suspect. This makes space for the larger
required buttons with text labels

Example of button with image + label:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkLockButton.html

I believe this problem, would also help usability, as the meaning of those
icons in the new dialog is not very intuitive -- most users would need to mouse
over them to see the label anyway, in order to be sure they understood the
meaning of them.

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--- Comment #6 from j...@curioussymbols.com ---
Having to tab through options in a dialog box does not count as keyboard
accessibility IMHO (especially when the GTK theme makes it difficult to clearly
see which button in highlighted).

These buttons need a shortcut character which should appear on the button when
the user presses the 'ALT' key, as is normal for all (normal) dialogs.

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--- Comment #5 from Caolán McNamara  ---
There now seems to be two things mangled in here together. The initial bug
which is that the buttons at the top of the Paste Special dialog don't have any
visible keyboard shortcuts.

Then there's an additional complaint that its difficult to see which widget has
keyboard focus under a theme, presumably Ubuntu's default theme, under GTK3 and
has make this a blocker on the GTK3 metabug.

I'm going to remove this from the GTK3 metabug, because that's more of an aside
than the main initially reported problem. If the GTK3 connection is because the
GTK3 theme's focus rectangle is not sufficiently indicative of what element has
focus then either the theme is at fault or our use of the theme is bad, a
comparison against a native button with an image only on that theme would
identify the blame there, and a new bug about that if necessary with the
details of the gtk3 version and theme.


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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103182
[Bug 103182] [META] GTK3-specific bugs
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--- Comment #4 from Chris Sherlock  ---
My 2c - I'd say this is an implentation issue. Consistency in things like
buttons is pretty important, I'm not sure I'd consider this an enhancement
given it's something we should just do!

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 OS|Linux (All) |All
   Severity|normal  |minor

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
OK, so with copy/cut of cell value the Paste Special dialog in Calc changes. 

It behaves the same on Windows and offers the additional options including the
row of buttons with "Values Only", "Values & Formulas" and "Transpose"

And all the buttons on the dialog can be reached via keyboard-- and
+ in Windows OS. 

The keyboard button focus in this OS includes the thin outline--but more
obvious blue highlight on mouse-over.

Lack of accelerators/short-cut for the buttons is annoying (and inconsistent
with the other check box widgets) but does not prevent keyboard navigation as
suggested.

"Implementation Error" OR "Enhancement"?

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--- Comment #2 from Aron Budea  ---
Created attachment 132290
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Paste special with GTK3 (and Breeze icon set)

For clarification, as I understand it is about the paste special dialog you get
if you paste cell values.

I can navigate using Tab/Shift-Tab in the dialog just fine.
However, with GTK3 backend it is impossible/very hard to see where I'm at:
-for the buttons there's a very thin orange outline if they're selected,
-for the checkboxes/radio buttons there's no indication at all.

I guess that confirms there is an issue, but not exactly what is reported.
John, can you confirm/clarify?

Version: 5.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: e604ddfd1196c877ddce603dca15f9a5228497e0
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.4; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; 
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group

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--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
This works correctly for me on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US.

Either the ++v shortcut, or the , dit, pecial
accelerator sequence (or as localized) launches the Paste Special dialog.

Keyboard selection in the dialog for format.

Enter to complete the paste.

Something missing?  Linux only? Ubuntu/Unity only?

=-=-=


Version: 5.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 522e9c65faef684a22151ddf009a5a192838b522
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.19; UI render: GL; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2017-03-24_00:32:45
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL

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