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--- Comment #107 from JeffD  ---
(In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #100)
> AFAICS the griping about LibreOffice being a volunteer project in the bug is
> counter-productive when it comes to interesting volunteer developers in
> fixing it - also by now this bug is far too long to read in any tractable
> time for a volunteer. I would suggest that we close this bug, and create a
> series of new issues. 
> 
> Ultimately - I'm fairly convinced that Microsoft's new / DirectWrite
> rendering is a performance horror, and that by far the best approach would
> be to go to freetype-everywhere. Unfortuantely that is a chunk of work, and
> leaves us with some serious printing problems - Windows not providing any
> sensible print / output API unfortunately such as eg. PDF (and XPS hardly
> counts).

AFAICS, the "griping" was not about LO being a volunteer project, but about the
quality of the software.  And as for the "griping" being "counter-productive",
it appears that the problem would never have been taken at all seriously
otherwise.  But now, after over a year and a half there is at least a
workaround, even as other regressions have been as much as promised.

But I'll try to leave it alone now, as I have returned to OpenOffice so I don't
have to deal with the continual regressions and be accused of "griping" for
expecting a functional product.

Thanks.

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--- Comment #106 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Please do not reply on this resolved BZ issue. 

But fyi, for those affected (and unable to run OpenGL).

The patch [1] just applied against a 5.3.7 release-- tdf#112486 Do not force
GDI in no OpenGL, restores rendering quality. TDF TinderBox 62 builds available
for testing both 32-bit and 64-bit build with the patch [2].

Assuming no issues are identified with this patch it will be included in the
final 5.3 release, but _not yet_ in any fashion for the 5.4 or 6.0 builds. 

Please test, but respond on the open bz issue bug 112492, not here.

=-ref-=
[1]
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=5440837e02dee8bc884e02be697bfd4def621d26=libreoffice-5-3

[2] http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-5-3/

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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

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Xisco Faulí  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #105 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Due to the great number of comments in this report, I've been forced to created
a follow-up bug based on the latest constructive comment in here.
Please, in the new report, comment only if the information provided helps to
fix the issue, otherwise it's not of much help. Thanks

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--- Comment #104 from Andy  ---
I have no technical knowledge of what is implied, but as things stand at
present, I totally agree with Lenge comment n. 101:

"If that is the case, then the one and only solution to *this* bug is to fully
revert any and all rendering to how it was in the 5.3.1 release - and leave it
that way until a new solution is (1) available, (2) sufficiently usable, and
(3) provides the same level of quality as 5.3.1 default rendering."

The whole thing has really been a bad dream. Part of it, users like me cannot
grasp what advantages we are benefiting to outbalance all the trouble, anguish
and stress in discovering, following and coping with the issue.

Please understand that I do not want to sound negative or polemic at all.

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   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||112486


Referenced Bugs:

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[Bug 112486] [META] Bugs caused/worsened by forcing GDI when needed
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--- Comment #103 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Pierre C from comment #102)
issue with text rendering to Impress canvas with Hardware Acceleration active
is bug 107090 -- not this issue. 

But 'til fixed, can either use OpenGL rendering or use just CPU rendering for
your presentations. With CPU only you may need to adjust some of the
transitions.

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--- Comment #102 from Pierre C  ---
LO Team as made a great work to improve LO. They spent many efforts to promote
LO. But, every day, when I use Impress, it said to my students : "Can you see
how poor quality I am ?
Of course, rendering is very bad. but that's not all
On Friday, I had, an animation. Just text going to one place to another one. It
was so ugly that some students laugh...
Today : new lesson, with fading transition between slides. Very ugly
flickering.. (Oh I forgot to switch off these transitions, it doesn't work any
more)

This is an exercise slides. where answers appears at each click 
A student ask me to go back one slide. Then after a few second, I go forward,
and all the answers appears (Oh yeah, another regression I knew it... Grrr)

despite the great LO team effort's, every day, Impress tells to my students
"Can you see how ugly I am ?"

In 5 years the total regressions  had raised from 150 to 850...
Is it sustainable ?

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--- Comment #101 from Lenge  ---
(In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #100)
> ... griping about LibreOffice ... is counter-productive ...
Agreed. Yet as this is a major issue that affects many users, it should be
taken seriously. Which in turn means ...

> I would suggest that we close this bug, and create a series of new issues.
... that closing it would be the worst thing to do. While I agree that the
discussion here has become quite complex, the plain facts are:

1. This bug exactly describes the problem as it (still) is.
2. It is a major issue that affects many users.
3. It is a regression introduced by a minor version update (5.3.1 to 5.3.2).
4. None of the actions taken so far (subsequent updates, alleged fixes etc.)
has improved anything. In short, it has not been fixed in any way.
5. Numerous spin-off issues have already been created that focus on certain
follow-up aspects such as DirectWrite improvements.

Closing this bug would only send the message that this thing is not taken
seriously. Any subsequent issues would only unnecessarily reproduce all the
examinations, examples and attachments that are already here.

> Ultimately - I'm fairly convinced that Microsoft's new / DirectWrite
> rendering is a performance horror, and that by far the best approach would
> be to go to freetype-everywhere. [...]
If that is the case, then the one and only solution to *this* bug is to fully
revert any and all rendering to how it was in the 5.3.1 release - and leave it
that way until a new solution is (1) available, (2) sufficiently usable, and
(3) provides the same level of quality as 5.3.1 default rendering.

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--- Comment #100 from Michael Meeks  ---
AFAICS the griping about LibreOffice being a volunteer project in the bug is
counter-productive when it comes to interesting volunteer developers in fixing
it - also by now this bug is far too long to read in any tractable time for a
volunteer. I would suggest that we close this bug, and create a series of new
issues. 

Ultimately - I'm fairly convinced that Microsoft's new / DirectWrite rendering
is a performance horror, and that by far the best approach would be to go to
freetype-everywhere. Unfortuantely that is a chunk of work, and leaves us with
some serious printing problems - Windows not providing any sensible print /
output API unfortunately such as eg. PDF (and XPS hardly counts).

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--- Comment #99 from JeffD  ---
(In reply to Andy from comment #98)

> 
> Please notice that problems 1) and 2) are not mitigated in ANY combination
> of display settings (hardware accel and opengl. All together , IMHO this
> problems make for a compelling case supporting the need to solve this.
> In terms of critical nature, for power users n. 2 is the worst, and there
> seems to be NO workaround whatsoever.

If I may add; even if there was some magic combination of settings that made LO
usable, I doubt the average user considering switching to a free open source
solution and trying LO out for the first time would likely be compelled to
search for that magic combination before deciding they need to keep forking out
money for a commercial office product.  Their first impression of LO would be
that it is a low quality product. Users simply aren't accustomed to products
that have such problems on their default settings.

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--- Comment #98 from Andy  ---
I am sorry to mix things up a bit, but I would like to summarize the main
problems I experiences with the modified fonts display technique in latest
releases (lo5.3.2 and further). I am doing this because taken togheter they are
quite problematic. Everything is based on trails conducted on 2 different
windows 7 PC (there is no difference in outcome between the 2):

1)font rendering for all GUI of the suite are ugly and unpolished, and things
are a bit worse also for document contens (even if the latter is less  evident
than in the GUI rendering - menus, dialog windows etc.)

2) the scrolling of content displayed on a document, especially calc sheets,
has slowed down and become jerky. This slowing down makes LO downright unusable
when the screen shows a lot of data (see the details I posted in bug 107521),
causing scrolling to be around 13 THIRTEEN times slower than with lo5.3.1. At
those speed keyboard buffer becomes impossible to control and is extremely
difficult to navigate your spreadsheets

3) full screen impress presentations are rendered in a dramatically bad fashion
when hardware display accel is enabled. This can be avoided disabling Hardware
accel, but I still have to understand what this disabling implies for other
functions. Or is a totally useless option?

Please notice that problems 1) and 2) are not mitigated in ANY combination of
display settings (hardware accel and opengl. All together , IMHO this problems
make for a compelling case supporting the need to solve this.
In terms of critical nature, for power users n. 2 is the worst, and there seems
to be NO workaround whatsoever.

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--- Comment #97 from JeffD  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #96)
> (In reply to JeffD from comment #95)
> 
> Well good luck with AOO, especially when you attempt any substantive work
> with OOXML, or any cloud hosted files, or any of the dozens of other
> unsupported file formats that LibreOffice handles cleanly.
> 
> Personally I've dropped use of the 5.3 branch, and would recommend a slide
> forward onto 5.4 branch where any development effort--drawn from
> 6.0/master--that will see this resolved would be back-ported. 
> 
> LibreOffice continues to work well for me and most others, but YMMV and as
> you note there are alternatives.

Yes, I don't use the cloud and try to stick to native Open Document formats,
and apparently "most others" means everyone who doesn't use MS Windows, as,
from what I can see, it appears everyone on Windows seems to be affected.

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--- Comment #96 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to JeffD from comment #95)
> I never thought I'd do this, but I've actually started using AOO after
> telling everyone else that I thought it was pretty much dead and they should
> go with LO.

Well good luck with AOO, especially when you attempt any substantive work with
OOXML, or any cloud hosted files, or any of the dozens of other unsupported
file formats that LibreOffice handles cleanly.

Personally I've dropped use of the 5.3 branch, and would recommend a slide
forward onto 5.4 branch where any development effort--drawn from
6.0/master--that will see this resolved would be back-ported. 

LibreOffice continues to work well for me and most others, but YMMV and as you
note there are alternatives.

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--- Comment #95 from JeffD  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #94)
> (In reply to JeffD from comment #93)
> > 
> > I personally would use the "Still" version of LO, if "Still" meant "stable",
> > but the difference between the "Still" and "Fresh" version is that the new
> > bugs in the "Fresh" version may be different than the unfixed bugs in the
> > "Still" version, and the updates are still frequent in the "Still" version.
> 
> Perhaps you'd be more comfortable remaining on the 5.2.7 release, it is EOL
> but should be stable for you.
> 
> http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.2.7.2/win/

Thanks for the suggestion, but I believe that version had the bug that won't
retain formatting when pasting RTF, as I mentioned above (bug 101828).  So it
seems I have to go back further or just keep swapping one bug for another.

I never thought I'd do this, but I've actually started using AOO after telling
everyone else that I thought it was pretty much dead and they should go with
LO.

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--- Comment #94 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to JeffD from comment #93)
> 
> I personally would use the "Still" version of LO, if "Still" meant "stable",
> but the difference between the "Still" and "Fresh" version is that the new
> bugs in the "Fresh" version may be different than the unfixed bugs in the
> "Still" version, and the updates are still frequent in the "Still" version.

Perhaps you'd be more comfortable remaining on the 5.2.7 release, it is EOL but
should be stable for you.

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.2.7.2/win/

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--- Comment #93 from JeffD  ---
How is it that bugs are introduced in minor point releases that are supposed to
be "bug fix only" releases, and then they take several more updates to be
fixed, if ever?

Even if you go back to an earlier release where fonts are rendered clearly,
then you have another bug where RTF isn't pasted correctly.

How are ugly fonts and improper pasting not serious issues in what is supposed
to be a professional office product, and how do such serious bugs keep getting
closed out by people who obviously didn't experience the bugs on their systems
to begin with?

While having been a big promoter of LibreOffice, I've come to see how forced
updates every few weeks on a schedule no matter what, don't necessarily work
that well in practice.  The claim is that these forced releases result in
"quality free software", and in fact, it does seem LibreOffice is tending to
become quality free.  It would be good if bugs were actually fixed before
releasing "bug fix" updates instead of introducing new bugs, and even if new
bugs are at times unavoidably introduced, why is it so hard to reverse what
caused the bugs?

No wonder why OpenOffice continues to be so popular despite the lack of
resources committed to it.  Some users just seem to want something that works
for them over constant updates.

I personally would use the "Still" version of LO, if "Still" meant "stable",
but the difference between the "Still" and "Fresh" version is that the new bugs
in the "Fresh" version may be different than the unfixed bugs in the "Still"
version, and the updates are still frequent in the "Still" version.

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--- Comment #92 from timofort  ---
Hello

Same problem here with any version since 5.3.2

With or without OGL, fonts are fuzzy.

Windows 8.1 & Intel HD Graphics

I have to stay with 5.3.1 version.

I don't understand why setup or options don't propose to disable cleartype
greyscale ?

Sad :(

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--- Comment #91 from MaximeJ  ---
Just tried 5.4.1, the issue is still present.

In my configuration, LO x86 on W10 x64 with an intel HD 3000,
GL is disabled by blacklist and can only be activated if I ignore blacklist.

Anyway, I think we should leave OpenGL out of this bug,
the issue appeared after the change to the default rendering between 5.3.1.2
and 5.3.2 so we only complexify the procedure by testing and comparing with GL
enabled.

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--- Comment #90 from Lenge  ---
Created attachment 135979
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135979=edit
Detailed comparison with more options

Ok, here is a more detailed comparison with options separately
enabled/disabled. Caution: The screenshots incorrectly say "5.4.2.1", but
"5.4.1.2" is correct!
The results are as follows:

LibreOffice 5.4.1.2 (current release)
a) OpenGL off:
- Rendering is ugly and blurry (both UI and in-document)
- "Hardware acceleration" on/off has no effect
- "Anti-aliasing" on/off has no effect
b) OpenGL on:
- Rendering is slightly different (but still ugly and blurry)
- Horizontal ruler: Different rendering of vertical lines
- "Hardware acceleration" is disabled
- "Anti-aliasing" on/off has no effect

LibreOffice 5.3.1.2 (last known good)
a) OpenGL off:
- Rendering is crispy and sharp (both UI and in-document)
- "Hardware acceleration" on/off has no effect
- "Anti-aliasing" on/off has no effect
b) OpenGL on:
- Rendering is ugly and blurry as in 5.4.1.2 (no extra screenshots)

So the only way to get sharp rendering is to (1) use LO before 5.3.2 and (2)
disable OpenGL (which has always been ugly and blurry, as already said in my
previous comments).

However, I couldn't observe any specific differences caused by hardware
acceleration, anti-aliasing, or between UI and in-document content.

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--- Comment #89 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Lenge from comment #88)
> Created attachment 135977 [details]
> Comparison of 5.3.1.2 vs. 5.4.1.2
> 
> To demonstrate what I mean, I did another side-by-side comparison of the
> 5.3.1.2 release ("last known good" before the rendering problems started)
> and the current 5.4.1.2 release.
> 
> The screenshots were taken on the same machine and with identical settings
> (hardware acceleration ON, anti-aliasing ON, OpenGL OFF). While the
> difference is quite visible in the UI itself (sharpness of menus and dialog
> texts), it is almost extreme for in-document rendering.
> 
> (BTW: Turning anti-aliasing on or off seems to have no effect in 5.4.1.2
> when OpenGL is disabled.)

Please disable Hardware Acceleration, so CPU only, and repeat the clip. And the
same with OpenGL enabled.

Do CPU only and OpenGL match--leaving just the Hardware Acceleration at issue
in rendering canvas, not the UI--which actually is consistent with bug 107090.

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--- Comment #88 from Lenge  ---
Created attachment 135977
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135977=edit
Comparison of 5.3.1.2 vs. 5.4.1.2

To demonstrate what I mean, I did another side-by-side comparison of the
5.3.1.2 release ("last known good" before the rendering problems started) and
the current 5.4.1.2 release.

The screenshots were taken on the same machine and with identical settings
(hardware acceleration ON, anti-aliasing ON, OpenGL OFF). While the difference
is quite visible in the UI itself (sharpness of menus and dialog texts), it is
almost extreme for in-document rendering.

(BTW: Turning anti-aliasing on or off seems to have no effect in 5.4.1.2 when
OpenGL is disabled.)

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--- Comment #87 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 135976
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135976=edit
samples from 1920x1080 desktop Intel HD 620 GPU

Do not see any problems with rendering. Attached zip shows Windows 10 (Intel HD
620 GPU) at 1920x1080 resolution--LibreOffice 5.4.1.2 main menu above a FireFox
55.0.3 main menu. 

The 3 clips show each of: CPU only rendering, Hardware Acceleration, and OpenGL
rendering of the SegoeUI fonts.  There is no noticeable differences between the
FireFox and the LibreOffice rendering of the same text.

I do not see the claimed "ugly and blurry" rendering.

Pretty clear this is resolved--Fixed and our restoration of Greycale rendering
is having the desired effects.

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--- Comment #86 from Andy  ---
I have tried 5.4.1.2, I can confirm the system fonts are looking bad,
unfortunately

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

--- Comment #85 from Lenge  ---
Just checked with 5.4.1.2 on Windows 8.1-64:
- Settings: Hardware acceleration, anti-aliasing, no OpenGL
- Result: Absolutely NO improvement compared to 5.3.2.2
- All my previous comments still apply

So this issue obviously isn't fixed, neither in 5.4.0.3 nor in 5.4.1.2
releases. Reopening; could somebody please have a look if it's really unfixed
or if it's just me doing something wrong?

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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

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 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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--- Comment #84 from Lenge  ---
Just checked with 5.4.0.3 on Windows 8.1-64:
- Settings: Hardware acceleration, anti-aliasing, no OpenGL
- Result: Absolutely NO improvement compared to 5.3.2.2
- All my previous comments still apply

Given that this issue has been set to "RESOLVED FIXED", is this really the
expected result for 5.4.0.3? In other words, Will the fix only be available in
6.x?

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--- Comment #83 from Erkhyan  ---
Windows 7 64-bit, LibreOffice x64

On my machine, I confirm that 5.3.4.2 was the first version with correct font
anti aliasing. Which makes it frustrating that 5.4.0.3 seems to have reverted
to pre-5.3.4 bad antialiasing.

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Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state.

Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

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Referenced Bugs:

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[Bug 109234] [META] DirectWrite rendering bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #82 from Aron Budea  ---
With reference to the commit in comment 70, I wonder if the following could be
a clue why it is causing a regression similar to bug 107166 together with the
fix of that bug on some remote desktop connections:
"IDWriteFactory::CreateRenderingParams method

Creates a rendering parameters object with default settings for the primary
monitor. Different monitors may have different rendering parameters, for more
information see the How to Add Support for Multiple Monitors topic."
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd368201(v=vs.85).aspx

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Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 
5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166

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 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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 CC||martin_stimm...@yahoo.de

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--- Comment #80 from LRN  ---
Windows 10,
libo-master64~2017-07-12_08.45.38_LibreOfficeDev_6.0.0.0.alpha0_Win_x64

Use hardware acceleration: yes
Use anti-aliasing: yes
Use OpenGL for all rendering: no

subpixel antialiasing is back and looks as good as ever. There's more
flickering when, for example, menu items are highlighted though.

when "Use OpenGL for all rendering" is switched to "yes", subpixel antialiasing
disappears, greyscale antialiasing is used instead. Text sharpness in OpenGL
mode is *still* better than it used to be in 5.3.2.x, but, obviously, worse
than what subpixel antialiasing provides. Looks like it's a feature that we're
going to be stuck with for the rest of our lives - either fast GL rendering, or
sharp text, but not both.

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--- Comment #79 from Timur  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #61)
> The issue in Impress slide rendered with GPU "Use hardware acceleration" is
> open as bug 107090 -- likely related to DirectWrite handling but not the
> issue here.
Only saw this now, sorry.

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Windows 7 here with Intel HD graphics used, AMD Radeon also available. 
I still see the problem in Impress as in Comment 11. Master, default rendering.

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--- Comment #77 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The 5.4.0.2 rc is posted to the prerelease server for any interested. Corrected
DirectWrite rendering is evident, it functions correctly on Win8, 8.1 and 10.
But users on XP and Vista may not see much change.

We are interested in what Win7 users report.  

Side-by-side screen clips 5.4.0.1 and earlier vs. 5.4.0.2 and later in
different rendering modes (OpenGL, GPU, CPU with and without anti-aliasing)
appreciated when critiquing.

=-ref-=
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

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--- Comment #76 from Andy  ---
Hello, I tried release 5.4.0.2 yesterday, with all possible combinations of
hardware acceleration, openGL and anti-alias option, but the meno fonts
remained unchanged and bad to look at. Sorry... on windows 7 by the way

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--- Comment #75 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Verified we have the correct behavior, including responding to system settings
for use of ClearType.

on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US with
Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 7ab9f12b57b1cb25b8b29f8bcbf006968db6b679
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.19; UI render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2017-07-07_05:27:37
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL

side-by-side with yesterdays
Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: eda9605ad51c82c4dc7dedcb8910f2384d6cc460
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.19; UI render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2017-07-06_06:23:13
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL

With OpenGL rendering disabled, using default w/Hardware acceleration or just
CPU for rendering, examine the menubar in Start Center looking at the "O" in
open, and "C" in ctrl+ shortcuts.  Also, any open module's menubar the "O", "C"
or "G" glyphs.

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--- Comment #74 from Commit Notification 
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Tomaž Vajngerl committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-5-4":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=238d6e367b3bcbc14cc7579dda866488a2c7f4c3=libreoffice-5-4

tdf#106990 set cleartype setting / force to use GDI render mode

It will be available in 5.4.0.2.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
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--- Comment #73 from f...@foramnagaidhlig.net ---
It means that they are trying to copy the fix over to the version 5 development
cycle, so that users can benefit from it faster and won't have to wait for
version 6.

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--- Comment #72 from Andy  ---
Sorry, what is the meaning of "cherry-picking" in this case? I am a bit
clueless sorry again

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #71 from Michael Meeks  ---
Cherry-pick in progress for 5-4; thanks for the report - and to Tomaz for
fixing =)

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Tomaž Vajngerl committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

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tdf#106990 set cleartype setting / force to use GDI render mode

It will be available in 6.0.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
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--- Comment #69 from Andy  ---
Alas I tried and installed lo 5.4.0.1 but everything is still the same, ugly
font rendering of menus and dialogs (you can apply some substitutions, but the
ugliness remains, and besides you may NOT want that substitution active for
your documents as well), awful looking impress full screen presentations with
hardware acceleration activated. Promptly downgraded back to the last good
version, 5.3.1.
BTW, 5.4.0.1 in Italian is still very preliminary, with dozens of untranslated
words scattered along the GUI, but this is another matter

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)

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--- Comment #68 from Ivan Saggiorato  ---
Just here to suggest to give this bug report a more high priority than normal
for a more fast assignment. For some people with severe sight problems like me
this bug have a big impact for the productivity, pushing me to use other office
suite on Windows or turn on a Linux machine in the meanwhile.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)

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--- Comment #67 from wroot  ---
Adding comment to confirm same issue on my end (Nvidia 550Ti with latest
drivers, Win7 x64, 1680x1050). I had to disable OpenGL via registry hack since
5.1 to make LO even show menus. Now the text is fuzzy and menu flickers with or
without HA and AA.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
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Summary|font rendering got worse|font rendering got worse
   |looking in 5.3.2.2 (for |looking in 5.3.2.2 (for
   |Default rendering, OpenGL   |Default rendering, OpenGL
   |not affected)   |not affected) (devEval
   ||comment 60)
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #66 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Confirmed many times, but to NEW rather than WONTFIX. 

See Michael M's. hint as in comment 60 and what IMHO are structural issues with
our DirectWrite implementation as in bug 107521 and where we seem to now have
wonky defaults initializing the DirectWrite rendering.

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http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/inc/win/winlayout.hxx#199

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