[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108621] Form-Navigation: CTRL+TAB only works right with Design-Mode switched off

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--- Comment #13 from Robert Großkopf  ---
Still the same buggy behavior in LO 7.5.4.2 on OpenSUSE 15.4 64bit rpm Linux.
Ctrl+Tab works, when form has been opened for editing and design mode is
switched off.
Ctrl+Tab only works once if form has been opened for input data.

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--- Comment #10 from Robert Großkopf  ---
Still the same buggy behaviour in Version: 7.1.4.2 - tested with OpenSUSE 15.2
64bit rpm Linux.

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Dear Robert Großkopf,

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--- Comment #8 from Robert Großkopf  ---
Still the same buggy behaviour in Version: 6.3.0.0.beta1 - tested with OpenSUSE
15 64bit rpm Linux.

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Dear robert,

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--- Comment #6 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de ---
It's the same buggy behavior in LO 6.0.5.2 on OpenSUSE 42.3 64bit rpm Linux

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--- Comment #4 from Gerhard Weydt  ---
Robert gathered from my comment #2 a meaning I didn't intend to convey, and
therefore thought he had to correct it. But in fact we mean the same. After a
private dialog I think we have now agreed on the following statement: There
should be a way, in data entry mode, to jump to the (first element in the) next
form, similarly to edit mode, where you can jump to the next form by Ctrl+Tab.
This does normally not work for forms containing table grids: when the cursor
is within a table grid nothing happens. It does jump to the next form, though,
when the cursor is within a single field.

If you combine table grids and single grids in one form, the situation is more
complicated. It seems that Ctrl+Tab has two different meanings:
1. if the focus is in a single field, it jumps to te next form.
2. if the focus is in a tablegrid, it leaves the table grid; this may result in
a jump to the next form, but if there are some single fields in the form, the
cursor moves just to the first of these fields (this may depend on the
tab-order or the order displayed in the navigator).

The above statements relate to the situation that you opened the form document
in data entry mode. If you open it in edit mode and switch off design mode
(which I name mode B for the moment), then you should ideally be in the same
mode as in data entry (which I name mode A). But there are grave differences:

1. if you have only table grids, mode B seems to work perfectly: Ctrl+Tab jumps
from one form to the next; in mode A this normally doesn't work
2. if you have also single fields within a form, Ctrl+Tab will not work for
single fields in mode B, whereas it works for them in mode A. In mode A the
focus moves from a table grid to the first single field or from a single field
- as it seems - to the first (in the sense of tab order) element of the next
form.

There is no use providing examples or test documents, anyone tackling this
principal problem will have to create his own test cases after investigating
the existing code. Robert's example may be a starting point, though.

Rest it to say that this an important issue regarding accessability, which
seems to have been a little bit overlooked in Base.

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rob...@familiegrosskopf.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 OS|Linux (All) |All

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--- Comment #3 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de ---
Created attachment 134115
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=134115=edit
Same bug with single fields an a tablecontrol - no way back while input data.

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--- Comment #2 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de ---
(In reply to Gerhard Weydt from comment #1)
> It seems that this misbehaviour of Ctrl+Tab only happens, when one tries to
> get to the next form starting from a tablegrid. It works fine when starting
> from a single field, eg. a text field, a formatted field, a combo box or a
> check box.

Can't confirm. Test the second attachment: Single fields, followed by a
tablecontrol. You move to the tablecontrol but can't switch back.

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Gerhard Weydt  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Gerhard Weydt  ---
I can confirm this on Windows 10.
It seems that this misbehaviour of Ctrl+Tab only happens, when one tries to get
to the next form starting from a tablegrid. It works fine when starting from a
single field, eg. a text field, a formatted field, a combo box or a check box.

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