[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |desktop.org |

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Patch submitted with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/47391/, still a few
issues.

Tooltips for discussion:

Search field: "Filter the functions list below"
Category dropdown: "Show all or a subset of commands, or macros or styles"
Description: "Description of the selected function;\n only available when the
local help is installed."
Scope: "Select where the modifications should be stored"
Target: "Select where the functions should be added"
Move up/down: "Move up" / "-down"
Add/remove: as before

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting and suggest to place labels left
aligned _above_ all controls using Search, Category, Function, and Description
on the left side (as today) amd Scope, Target, Function, Customize right hand.

The additional suggestion to have text on +/- won't work. We better provide
tooltips on the controls including the add/delete buttons that remain icon
only.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

--- Comment #8 from Olivier Hallot  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #6)
> > Then shrink the width of the lists a bit.
> 
> The list box width is defined by its content. Don't know, however, why we
> don't define a fix size and use ellipsis or horizontal scrollbar. Muhammet,
> any good reason?

In the past we had tons of ellipsis in the UI. See my rationale against them in
bug#86871. I stand for eliminating them as they are a source of
stress/confusion to most users, especially new LO users.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #6)
> Then shrink the width of the lists a bit.

The list box width is defined by its content. Don't know, however, why we don't
define a fix size and use ellipsis or horizontal scrollbar. Muhammet, any good
reason?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

--- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #5)

> The dialog is quite large already (874x674) and adding the labels on the
> left would add additional width to the dialog, which can be even larger in
> localized versions.

Then shrink the width of the lists a bit. At least in Dutch and English,
commands/descriptions that are over half the width of the lists, are rare.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||103238
Summary|[UI] Missing widget labels  |[UI] Missing widget labels
   |in Customization dialogs|in Customization dialog

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #0)
> I also demand to replace the "+" and "-" icons with textual "Add" and
> "Delete" buttons.

I wouldnt be infavour of this.

(In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #2)
> The label can perfectly be a tooltip; it‘s easy to add if you agree.

Yep this is the way to go.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #3)
> When skipping 'Functions', the other two could be placed let of the lists,
> without changing the overall view of the dialog too much.

The dialog is quite large already (874x674) and adding the labels on the left
would add additional width to the dialog, which can be even larger in localized
versions.

> is that fine for a11y too?

Yes.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103238
[Bug 103238] [META] Customize dialog bugs and enhancements
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