[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2019-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119563

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2019-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119563

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 149879
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=149879=edit
Document properties in inkscape

(In reply to ffs from comment #8)
> Personally I'd stick it in the metadata of the image rather than a private
> LO tag.

We need to take care about compatibility, ie. roundtrips of the odf with other
tools like OpenOffice, Calligra, with alien formats such as from MSO and when
exporting/importing the image as SVG, for example.

As of SVG, Inkscape has some tags shown in the attachment. Those are saved in
the metadata



  
image/svg+xml
http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/StillImage; />
Test
11.3.2019

  
HT
  


  
CC0
  


  
HT
  

none
self-made
English

  
test
rectangle
  

This is a test.

  
RH
  

http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/; />
  
  http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/;>
http://creativecommons.org/ns#Reproduction; />
http://creativecommons.org/ns#Distribution; />
http://creativecommons.org/ns#DerivativeWorks; />
  

  

Sounds like some work for the developers.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2019-03-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from ffs  ---
I would advise (as the OP) that this should be a default feature if LO and not
an optional script.  Ideally it would be optional (but by default on) in the
insert image dialogue "keep source filename [yes]".  

The reason being is that ideally I'd like this to have been the default the
last few years so I can recover the original now - no optional script will
allow me to go back in time once I realise this information isn't being stored
by default and by the time anyone realises it is too late.

There are reasons not to store this information an to allow it to be opted out,
edited or deleted, but for the average users it will be useful.

Personally I'd stick it in the metadata of the image rather than a private LO
tag.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2019-03-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Regina, has ODF dedicated fields for those information, or a) does it make
> sense to enhance the format first or b) should we (ab)use some meta tag?

No, ODF has no hidden additional information for the image itself. The user can
put information into the general  element of the containing
 element.

It is possible to store information in a  element in the
 element. In the UI those are in File > Properties, tab 'Custom
Properties'. The user is free in the name (key) of such property, only that it
has to be unique. The content (value) can be arbitrary text. If a user take the
image name as key and the URL as value, he can save the information together
with the document.

Both suggestion needs explicit actions by the user. I would not do such things
automatically. But it sounds like a task for a script, which can be installed
as extension.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2019-03-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119563

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Regina, has ODF dedicated fields for those information, or a) does it make
sense to enhance the format first or b) should we (ab)use some meta tag?

Regarding the actual fields it doesn't matter too much whether it's based on
DCMES (c4) or MWG (c2). But we should take care on the actual request (where
did I take an image from, locally). Plus, we should not override relevant
fields. "Source" might be an option. And for this reason (and for simplicity) I
vote against editing the meta data.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2019-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to ffs from comment #0)
> path: /home/fred/bloggs/images/
> date import: 12 Feb 1956
Please mind!  I don't see these two above here in the various links on meta
data :)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2018-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2018-09-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
What has OASIS and the ODF TC worked out from past sessions?

Delving too far into Exif or XMP for the benefit of raster images, with no
appreciable support for other graphics seems kind of short sighted.

I'd much rather see a fully fleshed out treatment of Dublin Core [1] as the
basis for metadata attribute assignment in XML of all objects held in ODF, not
just raster images.

Might be doable with XMP. But, I don't think we want the overhead of
manipulating Exif/TIFF binary headers for images that we convert and manipulate
internally in SVM/BMP anyhow. 

IHMO keeping track of metadata during the image/graphic object lifecycle would
be better handled as with the rest of an object's properties and all objects
with common methods.

That has benefit of allowing us to "anonymize" the objects attributes when that
is preferred/required for privacy.

=-ref-=
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Core

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2018-09-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119563

--- Comment #3 from ffs  ---
Thanks folks for looking at this:

For me the priority would be filename, path and date - Personally I'm not
bothered about the rest but I was surprised that LO doesn't preserve or allow
manipulation of this data.

Personally I think that all concerns could be addressed at the point of import:

Import (without metadata)
Import (with metadata)

and an "edit metadata" option for the image.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2018-09-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Some info might be useful and is shown anyway with the image. Following [1]
interoperability keywords are

* keywords
* description
* date and time*
* orientation
* rating
* copyright*
* creator*
* location created
* location shown 

where those with asterisks seems most important to me (exif [2] has much more
info) plus file name, which is not part of the digital still image meta data
but in the more general definition [3]

* Means of creation of the data
* Purpose of the data
* Time and date of creation*
* Creator or author of the data*
* Location on a computer network where the data was created*
* Standards used
* File size
* Data quality
* Source of the data*
* Process used to create the data

Not an easy topic.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadata_Working_Group
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exif
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadata#Definition

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 119563] When importing media (eg images) to libreoffice it would be friendly to save some metadata

2018-09-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Buovjaga  ---
Adding UX to the conversation as especially the privacy aspect needs some
consideration.

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