[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126700] Untitled document remains open when have a default template
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126700 Jan-Marek Glogowski changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83 ||722 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |glo...@fbihome.de |desktop.org | --- Comment #4 from Jan-Marek Glogowski --- I can confirm this behavior. For whatever reason, a changed default document template isn't handled as an empty document, e.g. configured via true $(inst)/share/template/empty/soffice.ots This factory default template still works correctly, so most people simply won't have noticed this change. ooSetupFactoryTemplateFile is also the value in user/registrymodifications.xcu, if you use the "Set as Default" from the right click menu of templates in the template manager - kind of well hidden. Looking into officecfg/registry/schema/org/openoffice/Setup.xcs, I actually found three settings, which might be related to the default template handling: * ooSetupFactoryTemplateFile * ooSetupFactorySystemDefaultTemplateChanged * ooSetupFactoryEmptyDocumentURL The difference is between a "manually" opened template and the automatically "empty" template of the LO module. IMHO the later one should still be replaced by any user opened document, if it hasn't been modified. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126700] Untitled document remains open when have a default template
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126700 --- Comment #3 from bchemnet --- In case it is unclear from previous comments, this is triggered when starting Libreoffice as "Writer" or "Calc", rather than through the Startcenter. For me, the Startcenter is cumbersome and slows me down, so I have always avoided it. With this bug, I now have a choice of either only opening Libreoffice via the Startcenter or having to constantly close "untitled" windows. The Startcenter solution is obnoxious to me because if I am working in a desktop view that does not have any open Libreoffice windows, the fastest way to open a new file is to start a new window and then open my file. This works if I open "Writer", etc. But if I open Startcenter, I am refocused to my first opened window, which is not where I want to be in this circumstance, and so I still end up with additional clicks to reorder my windows. I think the issue with relating this to the MS suite is that if I start an instance of Word or Excel, the resulting window is not flagged as used in anyway, even if an instance of Word or Excel is already running. But in Libreoffice, because everything is literally part of the same program, it seems that starting "Writer" or "Calc" is identical to explicitly requesting a new file. But those two things are in fact not the same in workflow, and so flagging all "untitled" windows with a template as "in use" is inappropriate. Personally, I would like to see the change reverted, as it is a significant change in the way that Libreoffice has worked from the first time I used it 15 years ago. Failing that, at least please modify it so that starting a new program instance is different from clicking "new file" in Startcenter or an existing instance. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126700] Untitled document remains open when have a default template
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126700 --- Comment #2 from bchemnet --- In MS Office, if one *explicitly* opens a new document from a template, the document is flagged as modified and so not replaced if another document is opened. That is not the case if the user has set a *default* template; then new documents are still replaced, because the user has taken no action to indicate "leave this window alone". That is my problem here: all of my new document windows remain open only because I have a default template. I am never taking any action to flag those windows as in-use. So every time I start Libreoffice, even completely fresh, and then want to open a document, I get an unwanted "untitled" window. That is the part that is inconsistent. An automatically created new window (such as program start) that draws from a default template should not be flagged as in-use, and should be replaced. To be clear: I never open a document as a template. If I explicitly did that and then immediately opened something else, I can see the utility in the patch. But simply keeping all untitled windows open if they have template information is going too far, and makes it more frustrating to work with a default template (which is one of the things that Libreoffice is far stronger in than MS office). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126700] Untitled document remains open when have a default template
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126700 --- Comment #1 from Katarina Behrens (CIB) --- > The new behavior is inconsistent with the behavior of every document > management program I have worked with for 30 years, and for no good reason. It is consistent with the behaviour of MS Office which opens a new document in a new window if there is another document opened from template in the old window. This is where the request for bugfix came from: the users migrating from MS Office found it unacceptable that content provided by a template is silently replaced by a new document. I've no idea which document management systems you've worked with in last 30 years, but maybe MS Office wasn't one of them? Atm I have no constructive idea how can people have it both ways except for "introducing yet another compatibility configuration option and give those who think they shouldn't have to change their workflow a possibility to get the old behaviour back" which is not constructive at all -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
