[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||99648 --- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #5) > > The ticket for removing "Controls" is bug 133809. It would surely be a huge > effort. That should have been bug 116917, but yes if Controls from Forms are the same controls Draw, that tracks as the same issue. (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7) > > *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 116917 *** But is it, seems bug 90320 is closer. Or bug 99648 is the general case. And, I really think any work on the Draw Layer bar is mute if we press on with work on bug 90244 to get the Draw layers (including Controls and Dimensions) into the Sidebar, either into Navigatior or as a new Deck. =-ref-= https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/07/31/how-the-navigator-may-support-object-handling-in-libreoffice-draw/ Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99648 [Bug 99648] [META] Improve Layer Handling -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED --- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 116917 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 --- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #5) > "Dimension Lines" ... is really helpful. We could add the layer when dimension lines are placed on the canvas. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 --- Comment #5 from Regina Henschel --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > > 2. remove Controls and Dimension Line > +1, but likely a huge effort. > My take: either resolve as duplicate or keep for #2. The ticket for removing "Controls" is bug 133809. It would surely be a huge effort. Removing "Dimension Lines" might be possible. But the current implementation is really helpful. It allows to quickly measure objects and show/hide this without explicitly switching the layer. That would no longer be possible, if you need a user defined layer to separate drawing and measurement. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to andreas_k from comment #1) > 1. rename -1, "Layer1" has no different meaning to me than "Layer". If you want to advertise the feature a plus-labeled button like Calc make sense (not urgently needed IMHO) > 2. remove Controls and Dimension Line +1, but likely a huge effort. > 3. move settings for Visible, Printable and Locked to the right click.. don't move but make it available in the context menu not least to show the shortcuts. => dup of 89130 My take: either resolve as duplicate or keep for #2. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 Regina Henschel changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de --- Comment #3 from Regina Henschel --- I think we do not need another bug. The problems are already covered by bug 90244, bug 90320, bug 89130, and bug 56498 and their duplicates. And look at bug 99648 "[META] Improve Layer Handling", whether your ideas not already reported. (In reply to andreas_k from comment #1) > In general it's not very common to have layers arranged that way ordinary > you have layers arranged in a list grouped by folders and you can show/hide > them with an symbol or lock them by an symbol. > Which applications do you have in mind? Remember, that layers in Draw do not determine the stacking order. > So my proposal for the layer tabbed bar on bottom of draw is: > > 1. rename at least Layout to Layer1, so that it's easier to understood that > we talk about layers (in calc you also call them Sheet1). > Renaming the label "Layout" to something different is a task of the translation teams. Only the English string is in source (sd/inc/strings.hrc). But keep in mind, that you need very good reasons to rename something that has its name already for twenty years. > 2. remove Controls and Dimension Line cause you can add new layers (like in > calc) but you can't delete the predefined one (Controls and Dimension Line > can't be deleted) I have already looked, whether it is possible to get rid of these two layers. But there are so many internal consequences to the code that I've refrained from trying. > > 3. move settings for Visible, Printable and Locked to the right click so if > you would like to use them you don't need an dialog to hide or lock the > layer. You can use click+Shift (hide/show), click+Ctrl (lock/unlock) and click+Shift+Ctrl (printable/not printable). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu --- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote --- Actually, before this goes ANY further--please take the time to read the Draw Guide (it has not been updated since the 4.3 release but is still applicable). https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/DG4.3/DG43-DrawGuide.pdf And specifically Chpt. 11 Advanced Draw Techniques which covers use of the 'Layers bar' and its three 'default' layers. Suffice to say, Layers in LibreOffice function a lot different than other Vector/Raster editing programs in common use--and that the Layer bar is not Z-order sensitive nor are its layers 'groupable'. There have been a lot of improvement requests about the Drawing UI, but the underlaying framework and ODF dictate a lot about what is appropriate. Point is there is no sense banging away at the Layer bar without understanding how LibreOffice Draw handles layers. Please read the documentation. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 --- Comment #1 from andreas_k --- In general it's not very common to have layers arranged that way ordinary you have layers arranged in a list grouped by folders and you can show/hide them with an symbol or lock them by an symbol. So my proposal for the layer tabbed bar on bottom of draw is: 1. rename at least Layout to Layer1, so that it's easier to understood that we talk about layers (in calc you also call them Sheet1). 2. remove Controls and Dimension Line cause you can add new layers (like in calc) but you can't delete the predefined one (Controls and Dimension Line can't be deleted) 3. move settings for Visible, Printable and Locked to the right click so if you would like to use them you don't need an dialog to hide or lock the layer. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 andreas_k changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133809] Pimp layer tabbed bar on bottom of Draw
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133809 andreas_k changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Pimp layert tabbed bar on |Pimp layer tabbed bar on |bottom of Draw |bottom of Draw CC||kain...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
