[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152923

--- Comment #10 from Andy  ---
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There you go with the white headers in Calc

As to your question, High contrast is NOT enabled.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Andy from comment #8)
> ...to me the headers are now stuck to white

Do you have high contrast enabled? Please share a screenshot of the issue.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Andy  ---
Thanks for the feedback. Now you write "This might be true if you apply the
same background color as the header"; but to me the headers are now stuck to
white and I could not find any way to alter this - not by changing the LO
"theme", nor by an item in the "Options/application colours" dialog.

You say that the header color is set by LO itself: "I was wrong back then.
LibreOffice draws everything itself." 
But is there any way for the end user to change such header background color
that I have not figured out? If there is please let me know and the issue is
over!

If not, it seems that the only way to "solve" this is to change the background
color of all cells of all calc documents from white to , say, pink or whatever
(this is indeed available in "Options/application colours" dialog). I may be
stubborn or old-fashioned in this regard, but I'd rather keep the document
background in white, as "neutral", as a piece of virtual paper, also because
this setting applies to all types of documents, and thus I would end up having
not white pages in Writer as well, a thing which again seems quite unnatural.

In all, if there is no way to make headers color changeble, and adding a
setting in the color options is unfeasible for some reasons, then it would be
better to be stuck to headers in light grey, as in Excel - than white.

Thanks again,

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Andy from comment #6)
> In one of the above bug comment, you write;
> "How row/col headers are painted, meaning with or without gradient, depend
> on your system theme".

I was wrong back then. LibreOffice draws everything itself.

(In reply to Andy from comment #4)
> - it becomes more difficult to distinguish the headings from the editable
> cells - this way, for instance, a D1 Cell with a centered "D", 8 points
> size, any sans serif font, a thin border is just identical and
> undistinguishable from the heading above it.

This might be true if you apply the same background color as the header. But
theoretically you could also use a gradient in a cell that mimics the old
header look and feel - making this hard to distinguish.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Andy  ---
I carefully examined bug 127508, including all the attachments, and realised
that the discussion centered of the "3d" look of the headers, not on their
color.

IMHO the "flatness" trend is not that exciting visually, but let's skip this.
It is obviously a matter of taste, and of course I cannot pretend hat other
share mine.

In one of the above bug comment, you write;
"How row/col headers are painted, meaning with or without gradient, depend on
your system theme". And it's the white color of headers I have that is the main
issue, not 3D versus flat.
So I am asking if you would please let me know what setting of the windows 10
theme I should alter to get Calc headers not exactly white as the editable
cells. Almost any color would do, the goal is to easily distinguish them from
the cells.
Thank you for your patience!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Indeed it was a deliberate decision for bug 127508. The world has become flat
(design-wise 3D-effects like this add noise and make the UI unnecessarily
busy).

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2023-01-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Andy  ---
Sorry for the impatience where could I find some info on the
motivation/rationale for this change?
Maybe I am just unable to perceive its advantages

At the moment, the reasons I see to undo this are instead clear:

- it becomes more difficult to distinguish the headings from the editable cells
- this way, for instance, a D1 Cell with a centered "D", 8 points size, any
sans serif font, a thin border is just identical and undistinguishable from the
heading above it. With the previous heading style the chances of this occurring
were radically lower.

- it gives the general impression of a less well defined and identified
allocation of the screen space

- finally, I do not want to say that you should always follow others, but
neither Excel nor Google Sheets have this kind of "headings invisibility".

Having said this, I am eager to try understand what motivated the decision, and
open to change my view if I find those reasons convincing.
All the best

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
Heiko you made this change, if I remember right, and it was an UX dicision. 

And I don't see any reasons to revert it now

@Andy: please be more patient. thanks

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Andy  ---
It seems this issue is not of interest to anyone 
At least an option to choose a color for the headings should be added to option
dialog on color
Thank you

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152923] Column and row headings in Calc lost their colored, slightly 3D look

2023-01-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Andy  ---
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Comparison of screenshots of Calc between LO6 and LO7.5.0.1

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