[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33060] Bundled extensions can not be disabled

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Stephan Bergmann  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #33 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
So I'll re-close as WONTFIX based on comment 19 and comment 31.

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--- Comment #32 from tommy27  ---
has an agreement about this issue been reached?

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--- Comment #31 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #29)
> (In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #28)
> Having a visual cue corresponding to a disabled extension would vastly
> improve the UI experience in this regard, as I could simply ignore those
> that are disabled. Scrolling through the list would be faster, even if still
> painful. Even better would be a filter for disabled extensions, that allowed
> them to be hidden from view.

But adding a visual cue for disabled extensions is not in the scope of this
issue (about disabling bundled extensions).  If you see room for improvement
after bug 92226 is eventually fixed, I'd suggest filing specific issues for
that.

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--- Comment #30 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #29)
> (In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #28)
> 
> 
> > How is that relevant for this issue about /disabling/ bundled extensions? 
> > Disabled extensions would not disappear from the Extension Manager.
> 
> Having a visual cue corresponding to a disabled extension would vastly
> improve the UI experience in this regard, as I could simply ignore those
> that are disabled. Scrolling through the list would be faster, even if still
> painful. Even better would be a filter for disabled extensions, that allowed
> them to be hidden from view.

A better solution might be to untick the checkbox for bundled extensions by
default, so that only shared and user extensions are shown, unless you activate
the bundled checkbox. Maybe even hide shared extensions by default.

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--- Comment #29 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #28)


> How is that relevant for this issue about /disabling/ bundled extensions? 
> Disabled extensions would not disappear from the Extension Manager.

Having a visual cue corresponding to a disabled extension would vastly improve
the UI experience in this regard, as I could simply ignore those that are
disabled. Scrolling through the list would be faster, even if still painful.
Even better would be a filter for disabled extensions, that allowed them to be
hidden from view.

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--- Comment #28 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #26)
> Currently, in a production release of LO5233, I count 50 bundled dictionary
> extensions that are allegedly installed and displayed as such in the
> Extensions Manager, when in fact I have (and use) only 3.
> 
> This makes use of the Extension Manager even more painful, as having to
> scroll through the whole list of irrelevant entries is a PITA.

How is that relevant for this issue about /disabling/ bundled extensions? 
Disabled extensions would not disappear from the Extension Manager.

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 OS|Windows (All)   |All

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 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #27 from Alex Thurgood  ---
OK, I'll risk it for some flames - re-opening

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--- Comment #26 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Currently, in a production release of LO5233, I count 50 bundled dictionary
extensions that are allegedly installed and displayed as such in the Extensions
Manager, when in fact I have (and use) only 3.

This makes use of the Extension Manager even more painful, as having to scroll
through the whole list of irrelevant entries is a PITA.

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--- Comment #25 from Alex Thurgood  ---
The OSX dictionary stub bundled extension problem is known as bug 92226

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--- Comment #24 from Alex Thurgood  ---
I would be inclined to re-open this bug as a result and set to OS(ALL)

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--- Comment #23 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Created attachment 129626
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=129626=edit
Screenshot of bundled dictionary extensions that are not even installed

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--- Comment #22 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #21)
> As there was no further input past comment 19, I'll close as WONTFIX now. 
> Feel free to reopen if there's new insights.

My ha'penneth worth is that currently on LibreOffice for MacOS, there is no way
of removing the bundled dictionary stubs for the many *non-installed* languages
which pollute the Extension Manager - see screenshot.

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Stephan Bergmann  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #21 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
As there was no further input past comment 19, I'll close as WONTFIX now.  Feel
free to reopen if there's new insights.

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--- Comment #18 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
(In reply to Muhammet Kara from comment #16)
> Is there consensus on this request? If so, I may handle it while I am still
> working on the extension manager.

I see no problem with it.

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--- Comment #17 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
+1 from me as i dont see why i shouldnt be able to disable the bundled
extensions that i would never use, like the french and spanish dictionaries,
which i could build LO without.

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[Bug 104113] [META] Extension manager dialog bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #16 from Muhammet Kara  ---
Is there consensus on this request? If so, I may handle it while I am still
working on the extension manager.

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I think that a disable/enable feature to turn on/off bundled extensions at will
is a legitimate enhancement request

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Never confirmed by QA team, setting to UNCONFIRMED.

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--- Comment #13 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org ---
(In reply to comment #11)
 [...]
 If I remove it from installation, later I can not add it, because no report
 builder extension is available on LibO extension site, because it is
 bundled. :(

Disagree: you can restart the installation in repair mode and reinstall the
missing extension.

Best regards. JBF

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--- Comment #12 from Benjamin Bach benjaom...@gmail.com ---
It was previously discussed how bundled extensions cannot be removed. However,
the real issue should be that they cannot be *disabled*.

Of course, bundled extensions cannot be removed from LibreOffice, since they
are system-wide installations and part of system package management.. so that
makes sense.

Extension Manager currently does not live up to its name as it barely manages
anything.

On a minor note:
Since all extensions are bundled upon first-run, the column of lock symbol
icons is hard to intepret for a user, since there are no alternatives to the
lock and it looks like a secure or signed icon.

Please have a look here at how the icons are simply locks all the way down:

http://ge.tt/7nr2CrX/v/0

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Summary|Extension manager not allow |Bundled extensions can not
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--- Comment #9 from Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com 2012-08-16 16:18:50 
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Hmmm, I think that this is no bug, maybe wanted

IMHO your enhancement is a great idea...

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--- Comment #10 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de 
2012-08-16 16:34:30 UTC ---
Yes, it really might cause problems that you are forced to use bundled
extensions instead of other ones you prefer. But currently there seems to be
some decision that those extensions are more or less part of LibO and should
not be unselectable in Extensions manager.

@Zoltán Reizinger:
Did you already try to unselect a bundled extension you dislike during
installation?

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--- Comment #11 from Zoltán Reizinger zreizin...@hdsnet.hu 2012-08-16 
17:15:59 UTC ---
I install LibO parallel to many version of AOO/LibO versions to test it under
win7. I usually use msiexec/a installation_file.msi option which is not allows
me to unselect extensions, I can live with this situation. 

But the original question was to disable report builder to allow creation of
old type of reports, and enable later, to crate report-builder reports. 


If I remove it from installation, later I can not add it, because no report
builder extension is available on LibO extension site, because it is bundled.
:(

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