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--- Comment #19 from Thorsten Behrens (CIB)  ---
The last commits where the UI changes Heiko was suggesting - now considering
this fixed for real. :)

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Thorsten Behrens committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-6-3":

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tdf#62728 Provide both A/1 and A/2 in PDF export dialog

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--- Comment #17 from Commit Notification 
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Thorsten Behrens committed a patch related to this issue.
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tdf#62728 Provide both A/1 and A/2 in PDF export dialog

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--- Comment #16 from Dieter Praas  ---
Verified in

Version: 6.3.0.0.beta1 (x64)
Build ID: a187af327633f5f00363be5131bd21a13e0f1a7b
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
Locale: en-US (de_DE); UI-Language: en-GB
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--- Comment #15 from Paddy Landau  ---
The dialogue currently has a simple tick-box next to "Archive PDF/A-1a (ISO
19005-1)".

Comment #13 (@Heiko Tietze) makes sense, but please remember to include
PDF/A-3. Also, PDF/A-4 is expected sometime this year.

So, a tick-box for PDF Archive, with a drop-down to choose from PDF/A-1,
PDF/A-2, PDF/A-3 and PDF/A-4 (when available) would be sensible. The
preselected option would be whatever was chosen last time, with the default
being the latest available.

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--- Comment #14 from Thorsten Behrens (CIB)  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #13)
> [x] Archive (with disabled subordinated controls if off)
> (o) PDF/A1   ( ) PDF/A2
> 
I like that proposal, but would obviously revert the order, and pre-select A-2.
;)

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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Could also be 

[x] Archive (with disabled subordinated controls if off)
(o) PDF/A1   ( ) PDF/A2

(with ISO disclaimer in the tooltip, if that's really needed). If there are
more formats on the horizon the combobox variation as used for Submit Format is
an option.

We could also introduce a new tab where all "General" options go. IMHO except
"Export bookmark...blank pages". View PDF after Export could go into Initial
View.
Alternatively to the extra tab we could have an expander to hide the less often
used options and a GtkSrollWindow to show the long list (more structure would
help here anyway).

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--- Comment #12 from Thorsten Behrens (CIB)  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #11)
> (In reply to Thorsten Behrens (CIB) from comment #10)
> > Hmm - so I'd prefer to not clutter the PDF export dialog with even more
> from 20 to 21 is hardly more ;)
> 
I don't believe many users will be able to parse out the difference between
those two very long options, so yes I strongly believe for the average person,
keeping both would be a significantly worse UX. Even more so as A-2 is a much
better option if PDF/A is needed (but a user would probably choose randomly).

Setting ux advise keyword, and meanwhile this bug to fixed.

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--- Comment #11 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Thorsten Behrens (CIB) from comment #10)
> Hmm - so I'd prefer to not clutter the PDF export dialog with even more
from 20 to 21 is hardly more ;)

> options - the PDF/A-1 export is still usable via UNO, so e.g. an extension
> could provide that functionality - or perhaps changing the preset via
> advanced options dialog is acceptable for those cases?
I cannot judge that.
But would a listbox 

 Archive - none -
 PDF/A-1 ISO ..
 PDF/A-2b ISO ..
be an idea?

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--- Comment #10 from Thorsten Behrens (CIB)  ---
Hmm - so I'd prefer to not clutter the PDF export dialog with even more options
- the PDF/A-1 export is still usable via UNO, so e.g. an extension could
provide that functionality - or perhaps changing the preset via advanced
options dialog is acceptable for those cases?

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--- Comment #9 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> thanks a lot Thorsten!
> If one needs to get a PDF/A-1 format, how can that be done?
> The format is mandatory in at least one case:
>   https://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0025218/2015-07-01

PDF/A-1 is also mandatory in some French organisations, eg. Sorbonne
University, for the submission of doctorate theses :

http://lettres.sorbonne-universite.fr/valorisation-conseils-techniques

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--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
thanks a lot Thorsten!
If one needs to get a PDF/A-1 format, how can that be done?
The format is mandatory in at least one case:
  https://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0025218/2015-07-01

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Thorsten Behrens committed a patch related to this issue.
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tdf#62728 add PDF/A-2 support, change UI default to use that

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--- Comment #6 from Paddy Landau  ---
@Kurt, sorry, PDF/A-2 and PDF/A-3. I thought that the latter was 2012, but you
say that it was 2011; you might well be right.

Whichever it is, it would be great for LibreOffice to support these standards
for long-term storage.

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--- Comment #5 from kurt.pfei...@gmail.com ---
Re. comment #3:

There is no such a thing as "PDF-3" or "PDF-2".

Can you please look up again and give an exact description of what you are
talking about?

There are the following "plain" PDF versions:

PDF-1.0 released by Adobe in 1993
PDF-1.1 released by Adobe in 1994
PDF-1.2 released by Adobe in 1996
PDF-1.3 released by Adobe in 1999
PDF-1.4 released by Adobe in 2001
PDF-1.5 released by Adobe in 2003
PDF-1.6 released by Adobe in 2004
PDF-1.7 released by Adobe in 2006

Control over the specification of PDF-1.7 was given up by Adobe in 2008.
Stewardship over it was passed to ISO which is now augmenting all further
development of the general PDF standard.

ISO published the original PDF-1.7 specs in 2008 as "ISO 32000-1" standard
(almost un-changed from the original Adobe specs).

In 2017 ISO published PDF-2.0.

The there are a few other special-purpose standards derived from general PDF.
One of the most important ones for the general public is the series of
standards which are addressing archiving purposes:

- PDF/A-1a  and  PDF/A-1b published in 2005 by ISO
- PDF/A-2 published in 2011 by ISO
- PDF/A-3 published in 2011 by ISO

There are more PDF file format standards (not all of them under ISO's
stewardship) for special purposes, such as "PDF/X*", "PDF/VT", "PDF/E",
"PDF/UA" and "PDF/A". However, none of them are called "PDF-2" or "PDF-3".

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--- Comment #4 from Paddy Landau  ---
Further to this, PDF-3 came out in 2012. It would be ideal for LibreOffice to
support not only PDF-2 but also PDF-3.

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Support for PDF A-2 is mandatory in The Netherlands

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--- Comment #2 from Greg  ---
I would like to second this request.

What I'd really like to see in the near future is PAdES support, for the
purpose of exported PDFs being LTV (Long-Term Validation) "enabled", even if
full PDF/A-2 standard is not implemented.

Right now it is possible to create PDF/A-1a files with LTV signatures, by
exporting them in LibreOffice and then using a third party software to sign the
PDF. I'm not sure if this is compliant to standards, but you can see the LTV
flag and people are happy.

Having the capability to produce LTV documents solely with LibreOffice would be
very convenient and most appreciated.

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