[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68271] EDITING: Paragraphs are inserted without paragraph end character

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--- Comment #17 from Timur  ---
I think we should reconsider this one in the light of all the "See Also" that
stem from not understanding this one, and probably there will be more. 
At lest we need a dedicated help page. 
I'm in favor of option for a user to choose, if feasible.

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--- Comment #16 from Timur  ---
*** Bug 88923 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68271] EDITING: Paragraphs are inserted without paragraph end character

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the pros and cons in the design meeting. While users from other
tools would benefit from the familiar workflow (see Jay's comparison in comment
12) the LibreOffice users know and accept our way of dealing with paragraph
breaks. So we came to the conclusion to keep the current behavior.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68271] EDITING: Paragraphs are inserted without paragraph end character

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--- Comment #14 from Cor Nouws  ---
also, this "problem" already exists since 1995 or so :)
Apart from that I appreciate the present behavior for a workflow faster and
cleaner than I remember from the other program, also consider what one might
break in existing macro applications.
I suggest to close as NotABug

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Thomas Lendo  changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Thomas Lendo  ---
I agree with Cor Nouws in comment 11.

But I would support the idea if the user can choose the behavior (with or
without end character) in the options dialog.

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--- Comment #12 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Application Comparison:

= Browsers =
Firefox: Not Included
Chromium-based : Included

= Word Processors =
Abiword  : Included
Calligra : Not Included
- Windows -
WordPad  : Included
MS Word  : Included
WordPerfect  : Included
- Mac -
WPS/Kingsoft : Included
iWork Pages  : Included
TextEdit : Included
- Browser -
Google Docs  : Included

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--- Comment #11 from Cor Nouws  ---
I would not wish nor dare to touch this.
I like the behavior of Writer more then the one in Word. I remember that I
always had to be careful / change selection there.
Also it is not just the paragraph end that is copied. It also has influence on
formatting. So can we expect requests in that area too?
Writer is fine, just good, in this regard. IMO WontFix,

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--- Comment #10 from Harald Koester  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> ... On the other hand it's pretty
> clear what is selected and with one additional key stroke you can add the
> break.
I think a quad click in order to select a paragraph is not used by a lot of
users. Thus I do not think that most of these users are aware that they have to
select the paragraph end character explicitly. In most cases they afterwards
will 'repair' the text by deleting and/or inserting a paragraph end character.

Furthermore it's more logical and consistent to insert a paragraph with a
paragraph end character: A word is also inserted with an additional space and a
sentence is inserted with a full stop. 

Certainly this is not a bigger problem, but I think a change would make
LibreOffice just a bit smarter at this place.

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Double checked the behavior of MS Word and the paragraph break is included in
the selection, meaning like requested here. On the other hand it's pretty clear
what is selected and with one additional key stroke you can add the break.

IIRC, we had the same or similar discussion where the cursor should go when
jumping with ctrl+up/down where it also wasn't clear if we go to the beginning
of the next paragraph or the end of the current. Both approaches have an
advantage, IMHO.

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Is this even valid?

Behavior now when you select content (with 4 mouse clicks OR with
+) of a paragraph--you _do not_ include the paragraph break.
So it would be wrong to insert one on paste.

If you need the paragraph end in the selection, extend the selection to include
the end marker.

Current (legacy behavior) is correct.

IMHO => WONTFIX

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Harald Koester  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Harald Koester  ---
Bug still exists with version 5.4.4. (64Bit, Win10)


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108844
[Bug 108844] [META] Cut/copy bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #5 from Harald Koester  ---
Bug still exists with version 5.2.0.

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If you have time, please do the following:

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Harald Koester harald.koes...@mail.de changed:

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Version|3.5 all versions|Inherited From OOo

--- Comment #3 from Harald Koester harald.koes...@mail.de ---
Bug still exists in version 4.4.1.2 with Win 7. 

Bug already exists in version 3.3.0. Hence version set to Inherited from OOo.

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If you have time, please do the following:

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LibreOffice (4.4.1 or later)
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behavior

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Thomas van der Meulen pje335...@hotmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Hardware|Other   |All
 OS|Windows (All)   |All
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||pje335...@hotmail.com
Version|4.1.0.4 release |3.5 all versions
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Thomas van der Meulen pje335...@hotmail.com ---
Thank you for your bug report, I can reproduce this bug running LibreOffice.
Version: 4.1.1.2
Build ID: 7e4286b58adc75a14f6d83f53a03b6c11fa2903 on Mac osx 10.8.4.

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