[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 84973] "Date (fix)" fields updated when copy of document opened

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
"Fix" fields are expected to show the same value on templates as well. At least
the help does not state otherwise: "Inserts the current date into your slide as
a fixed field. The date is not automatically updated."
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-US/text/simpress/01/04990100.html

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--- Comment #12 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Michael Stahl (allotropia) from comment #11)
> not sure i agree with this ... is this really what users want? probably a
> question for UX.

Then please consider the possibilities:
1. I want to continue working on the document as a next "version" of the
original document (I want to use LibreOffice ~similar to "copy file" feature of
a file manager);
2. I want to use the original file as a template (create a new file based on
the old file).

Of course, both are possible; and I agree that users might expect more of #1.
Just the differences wrt this feature should be clear to avoid surprises in the
opposite direction.

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--- Comment #11 from Michael Stahl (allotropia)  
---
> When you open as copy, the original document with fixed fields is used as a 
> *template* for the new copy

not sure i agree with this ... is this really what users want? probably a
question for UX.

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--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
When you open as copy, the original document with fixed fields is used as a
*template* for the new copy; and it's normal and expected that *for templates*,
the fixed fields are updated (that is one of the reasons to use the fixed
fields instead of inserting plain text).

IMO -> NOTABUG

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Dear Bugcruncher,

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 84973] "Date (fix)" fields updated when copy of document opened

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Aron Budea  changed:

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   Keywords|bibisectRequest |notBibisectable

--- Comment #7 from Aron Budea  ---
In Linux locking works differently, and the same steps can't be followed
(there's no option to open a copy).

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Aron Budea  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |---
Version|Master old  -3.6|3.5.0 release
 Status|RESOLVED|NEW
   Keywords||bibisectRequest, regression

--- Comment #6 from Aron Budea  ---
Still occurs for me in a recent 6.2 master build
(4f45687426af9b6d18b590816eb902bb364a521b). Note that the test document has to
be opened for writing in another Writer instance, and when the tested Writer
shows Document in Use dialog, Open Copy need to be chosen.

This indeed worked with 3.3.0, but not with 3.5.0, perhaps could be worth a
check with bibisect-43all oldest (unless it's really Win-only, but so far
there's no indication it wouldn't occur on Linux).

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Michael Stahl  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
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--- Comment #5 from Michael Stahl  ---
in current master, the bug does not reproduce; Open loads the document but does
not update the fixed fields.

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Aron Budea  changed:

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 CC||ba...@caesar.elte.hu

--- Comment #3 from Aron Budea  ---
Still reproducible in 5.1.4.2.

In 5.2 there's no Open Copy anymore, only Open that ignores file locking (apart
from the usual Open Read-Only and Cancel).

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Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com changed:

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 Attachment #107799|text/plain  |application/vnd.oasis.opend
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tommy27 ba...@quipo.it changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
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--- Comment #1 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it ---
reproducible under Win7x64 using 4.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 2d6dacc1c93bfd4a9086f8fde6b0edbfdeb573c9
TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-13_23:44:09

status NEW

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