[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86595] TOOLBAR: Changing the tooltip of character background color

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Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
Patch is in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/19741

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86595] TOOLBAR: Changing the tooltip of character background color

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86595] TOOLBAR: Changing the tooltip of character background color

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--- Comment #4 from Zolnai Tamás zolnaitamas2...@gmail.com ---
 Yes defining a difference for 'character background' and 'highlighting' is
 good, but to regular users, they are equivalent to the same thing.

I guess a was not clear here. I did not intend to say that I'd like to bring
into LO this two character background concept.
Rather I'd like to make our UI unambiguous. As I see the main problem causing
this compatibility problem is having two different names for the same thing (on
UI). So I would advice to use the same name on the toolbar and on the character
dialog.
If Highlighting is the better candidate then maybe we can rename the
Background tab page on character dialog also to Highlighting.

But you are right, not this is the place where I should discuss this. I will
open a new bug.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86595] TOOLBAR: Changing the tooltip of character background color

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--- Comment #3 from Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
Hi Zolnai,

Yes its unfortunate about the compatibility issue with highlighting but that
goes above what is being addressed in this bug report.

Most word processors have a 'highlight' labelled button so i dont think it is
suitable to confuse users with not having the same. If the highlighting
definition and mechanism works the way it is supposed to with ODF documents,
that would be the priority for LO's interface.

Yes defining a difference for 'character background' and 'highlighting' is
good, but to regular users, they are equivalent to the same thing. The most
confusing part was having 'highlighting' and 'background color' buttons next to
each other, which is one of the reason why 'background color' was been removed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86595] TOOLBAR: Changing the tooltip of character background color

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--- Comment #2 from Zolnai Tamás zolnaitamas2...@gmail.com ---
I have an other problem with the name Highlighting:

In MS Word there are two kind of character background attributes. The first one
is called Shading which is closer to LO's character background and so our MS
export filters (except RTF) saves character background as shading.

On the other hand, the second character background of MS Word is called
Highlighting, which is not supported by LO, because LO supports only one
character background attribute.

These names make our users confused because we call our character background as
Highlighting on the toolbar, but this highlighting does not match with the
one MS Word uses and is not exported to MS formats as MS Word highlighting.

The bug report:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64490

So I think this problem can be solved by forgetting the name Highlighting and
also the highlighter icon. Instead we can use Text Background Color or
Character Background Color and the icon also should be changed accordingly.

Next to this interoperability problem it's always a good idea to call the same
thing on the same way. By now we have the name character background and
highlighting for exactly the same thing. These two names have a little
difference in meaning (e.g. background color specifies the place of the color,
but the name highlighting speaks about the function of this color attribute).

See also a discussion about this started by me on dev list:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Discussion-about-highlighting-MS-compatibility-issue-td4139399.html

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--- Comment #1 from A (Andy) stgohi-lob...@yahoo.de ---
I feel the same.  Highlight Color sounds better and more consistent.

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   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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