[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88323] SPELLING: Shouldnt some of the grammar checking be enabled by default

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[Bug 109527] [META] Spell check dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88323] SPELLING: Shouldnt some of the grammar checking be enabled by default

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--- Comment #4 from Tiago Santos  ---
> LanguageTools/Lightproof grammar checker *is* enabled by default for builds
> where the extension is bundled. 
Only Lightproof is bundle by default, it has very limited language support, for
the English language is almost only verifies style and, most importantly, the
vast majority of major languages do not have grammar checking integrated.

In this day and age, a word processor is expected to check grammar out of the
box. As such, many users find this flaw very significant and this prevents them
giving credit, take time to explore LO or even consider LO a viable alternative
for them or their organization.

Languagetool has compatible licence (LGPL 2.1), has support for all major
languages and many more minor ones and provides good quality checking. It was
integrated in the past but its support was dropped shortly after, probably for
very good reasons. There are other grammar checkers that produce high quality
results (Grammalecte comes to mind). They are also not included, and certainly
for very good reasons.

Since this bug might not be solved by bundling those extensions, for one reason
or another, having LO informing the user about those options can effectively
mitigate this issue. This could be done in a way that explains why the
extension does not fit the requirements to be bundled.

This could be done in several, fairly easy, ways. 
In order of increased complexity:

1. Start Center points to http://extensions.libreoffice.org/
A new separate tab in the homepage for hosted and not hosted grammar
extensions and/or top extensions.
2. Start Center has an icon that links to language support wiki:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_support_of_LibreOffice
This would require code changes and have the page translated for most
languages to be effective.
3. Installer able to refer to or fetch relevant extensions. A “foreign project”
advice could/should be made.
4. First run, “Welcome Centre”, Linux distro style, pointing to recommended
extensions/grammar checkers.
5. Have links to the relevant grammar checkers inside LO. When the user clicks
“Verify grammar”, (and other grammar options), LO would check if grammar
support for such language is available. If it is not, a pop-up would appear
guiding the user to the relevant solutions for its language.

All the former solutions are low maintenance and they do not depend on other
projects to be implemented.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88323] SPELLING: Shouldnt some of the grammar checking be enabled by default

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88323] SPELLING: Shouldnt some of the grammar checking be enabled by default

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--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
LanguageTools/Lightproof grammar checker *is* enabled by default for builds
where the extension is bundled. 

So, having

Capitalization -- Check missing capitalization of sentences
Word duplication -- Check repeated words
Parentheses -- Check missing or extra parentasis or quotation marks

But setting

Possible mistakes -- Check more grammar errors--would be a bit annoying to
have selected by default.

@László, comments? And, can you explain the mechanism (or point to Wiki) of how
Lightproof rules for additional languages get bundled as .oxt and added to
Language Settings - Writing Aids panels.  Also, not clear if settings made to
the bundled English sentence checking panel propagate into any additional
language module extensions.

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--- Comment #2 from Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
*** Bug 90312 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88323] SPELLING: Shouldnt some of the grammar checking be enabled by default

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--- Comment #1 from A (Andy) stgohi-lob...@yahoo.de ---
A really interesting question.  I don't understand why there are not more
checked as standard.  If there are no reasons against it, then I personally
would propose that more features are checked by default in this dialogue (-
Possible mistakes, Capitalisation, Word duplication and Parantheses).

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