[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92407] Copying Spreadsheet Areas to Text Documents (help docs)

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--- Comment #21 from gmarco  ---
Created attachment 177255
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pdf document (last update)

now in L.O. vers. 7.2.4.1

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--- Comment #20 from gmarco  ---
Further last update.
Please discard the attachment 177240 
and look at the new (after last test in L.O. vers.7.2.4.1).

Anyway I believe that the document can be a useful compendium as a help for
managing the links between ODS and ODT.

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--- Comment #19 from gmarco  ---
Created attachment 177240
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updated pdf document

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--- Comment #18 from gmarco  ---
Please look at the update document also referring to bug 91817 which appears
solved, but 

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--- Comment #17 from Buovjaga  ---
Let's set to NEW as proposal attachment 172678 was added in June.

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--- Comment #16 from gmarco  ---
So, the issues can be distinguished as follows:

1) drag-and-drop: in the instructions (items 3-4) this appears as the only
method to perform the copy (a "must") while it is not, there are other more
"easy to use" modes as correctly supported by G.Ponzo in #3.

2) the whole topic is treated superficially, without deepening and explaining
the different modalities and the different results that derive from it (see my
previous attachment: not only OLE, also DDE).

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--- Comment #15 from Dmitriy Siushkin  ---
Do I understand correctly that there are some troubles with
localization/translation, but not with the drag-and-drop function?

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--- Comment #14 from gmarco  ---
Created attachment 172679
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suggested IT help about

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--- Comment #13 from gmarco  ---
Created attachment 172678
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report about

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--- Comment #12 from gmarco  ---
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #9)
> Can you propose a wording, so Olivier can implement it?

I spent some time testing and checking the current state of the possibilities
(see the attached report).
The operation can be performed in different ways and with different results.
Therefore I find it perhaps useless to prepare precise instructions until it is
defined what the developers of LO want to offer.
However, a correct IT translation of the current EN instructions would look
like this attached help (where modified parts are in italics).

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--- Comment #10 from gmarco  ---
I should test the function in detail and at the moment I don't have the time, I
will try to do it asap.
But, in the first place, as per instructions, it is NOT a "Copying ... but a
Moving ...!

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--- Comment #9 from Buovjaga  ---
(In reply to gmarco from comment #8)
> I do not think there are any changes compared to the text attached to the
> post dated 2016-06-28 and the instructions are by no means exhaustive: by
> dragging the area of the spreadsheet into the text document, the area in the
> spreadsheet is moved (not copied ) and then, closing with save the ods file,
> this gets saved without that area.

Can you propose a wording, so Olivier can implement it?

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--- Comment #8 from gmarco  ---
I do not think there are any changes compared to the text attached to the post
dated 2016-06-28 and the instructions are by no means exhaustive: by dragging
the area of the spreadsheet into the text document, the area in the spreadsheet
is moved (not copied ) and then, closing with save the ods file, this gets
saved without that area.

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--- Comment #7 from Olivier Hallot  ---
Is this still valid in

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/shared/guide/dragdrop_table.html?=WRITER=UNIX

Can we get a proposal for wording?

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--- Comment #6 from gmarco  ---
Summary (01/12/2017):
Re-testing in LO 5.2.3.3 and summarizing the issue, firstly I don't share the
summary editing by adding  "(IT help)": all that it is said is true both for IT
and EN ... and, maybe, ..
Regarding "Copying Spreadsheet Areas to Text Documents" both in the local and
online help  nothing is said about linking as DDE objects, and nothing is said
about the use of the method copy-paste special.
I share the Gabriele Ponzo's opinion about drag in comment#3: not every
use it, without doing a mess and it has to know its use
normal/+Ctrl/+Ctrl+Shift.
At item 6 I don't like the "You edit the objects ... , but you see ...": why
"but"?  I'd write "as you'll see" or simply "seeing". Samething for IT "...
mentre con i fogli elettronici vengono visualizzati ...": here too, why
"mentre"?
Same time you should explain the significant difference between inserting as
OLE or DDE: with the first, data will remain incorporated as they are, with the
latter they will be logically linked to the source document reflecting, if
desired, all the changes occurred over time.

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