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   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #20 from BogdanB  ---
For the reporter:
Please be free to reopen this bug if you can reproduce it with a newer version.
LibreOffice 7.5 or LibreOffice 7.6

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--- Comment #19 from خالد حسني  ---
(In reply to خالد حسني from comment #18)
> except Zero width no break space (U+FEFF), I think this is the only remaining 
> issue.

Checking more, it seems that the Unicode Text Segmentation algorithm
(https://unicode.org/reports/tr29/#Grapheme_Cluster_Boundaries) treats U+FEFF
as a single grapheme cluster i.e. a user-perceived character, so when
letter-spacing we count it as one character and space it.

This can be tested in https://util.unicode.org/UnicodeJsps/breaks.jsp, by
copying the word deprecated from the document and choosing User Character from
the drop down menu, and there will be two red lines where U+FEFF is.

Given this and since the use of U+FEFF as zero width no break space is
deprecated, I think there are no issues left here and this bug should be
closed.

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--- Comment #18 from خالد حسني  ---
Created attachment 187188
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Document with LibreOffice 7.5.3 on macOS

Current status:
- Ligatures are disabled automatically when letter spacing is used (fixed in
bug 66819).
- Accents are no longer displaced and don’t cause double spacing.
- All zero space characters don’t cause extra spacing except Zero width no
break space (U+FEFF), I think this is the only remaining issue.

This is testing with:
Version: 7.5.3.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 9f56dff12ba03b9acd7730a5a481eea045e468f3
CPU threads: 6; OS: Mac OS X 13.3.1; UI render: default; VCL: osx
Locale: en-EG (en_EG.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71732
[Bug 71732] [META] Bugs related to text rendering, typography and font features
in LO
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Problem persists in:

Version: 7.1.2.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 8a45595d069ef5570103caea1b71cc9d82b2aae4
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Problem still exists in:

Version: 6.2.2.2
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Created attachment 138482
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Screenshot of the paragraphs with "llflll"; first and second do not look
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the paragraphs with "llflll"; first and second should look identical

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--- Comment #10 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
I have retested for the bug.

The bug is still present on a currently supported version of LibreOffice
(LibreOffice 5.4.3.2, MacOS 10.13.2 or Ubuntu 17.10).

I am adding another example file. It contains three increased spacing
paragraphs with the nonsense word "llflll". The first two are supposed to look
identical, but they do not:

1. The first paragraph has ligatures switched off by setting "liga=0" (using
the font name "Linux Libertine:liga=0").

2. The second paragraph has ligatures switched off by using the zero-width
non-joiner (between the "f" and the "l"). It is supposed to look exactly like
the first paragraph, but it does not.

3. The third paragraph uses the default "fl" ligature.

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--- Comment #8 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
I have retested for the bug.

The bug is still present on a currently supported version of LibreOffice
(LibreOffice 5.2.2.3, MacOS 10.12.1).

I have also tested LibreOffice 3.3.0. The bug is also present with 3.3, so I am
setting the version to "inherited from OOo".

The upcoming 5.3 release, while still suffering from the bug, brings an
important change: Now the display is identically wrong accross different OS. I
have added screenshots from LibreOfficeDev 5.3.0.0.beta1 on different OS (MacOS
10.12.1, Ubuntu 16.10, Windows 10.0.1).

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--- Comment #7 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
Created attachment 129029
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=129029=edit
Test document on Windows (LibreOfficeDev 5.3.0.0.beta1)

This is how the test document displays on Windows 10.0.1, using the latest
Beta LibreOfficeDev_5.3.0.0.beta1_Win_x64. The font used in the examples is
Linux Libertine 5.3.0 (LinLibertineTTF_5.3.0_2012_07_02.tgz).

The characters fall into three groups:
1. Zero-width non-joiner and Zero-width non-break space and the combining breve
   below cause additional space at the character's position.
2. Zero-width joiner and Combining acute accent cause additional space AFTER
the
   word.
3. Zero-width space and Word joiner display just fine.

I guess the difference between groups 1 and 2 is that the characters in group 2
trigger a built-in smartfont behaviour in the font, while the characters in
group 1 don't.

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--- Comment #6 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
Created attachment 129028
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=129028=edit
Test document on MacOS (LibreOfficeDev 5.3.0.0.beta1)

This is how the test document displays on MacOS 10.12.1, using the latest
Beta LibreOfficeDev_5.3.0.0.beta1_MacOS_x86-64. The font used in the examples
is
Linux Libertine 5.3.0 (LinLibertineTTF_5.3.0_2012_07_02.tgz).

The characters fall into three groups:
1. Zero-width non-joiner and Zero-width non-break space and the combining breve
   below cause additional space at the character's position.
2. Zero-width joiner and Combining acute accent cause additional space AFTER
the
   word.
3. Zero-width space and Word joiner display just fine.

I guess the difference between groups 1 and 2 is that the characters in group 2
trigger a built-in smartfont behaviour in the font, while the characters in
group 1 don't.

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j_mach_w...@shared-files.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Attachment #117542|0   |1
is obsolete||

--- Comment #5 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
Created attachment 129027
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=129027=edit
Test document on Ubuntu Linux (LibreOfficeDev 5.3.0.0.beta1)

This is how the test document displays on Ubuntu Linux 16.10, using the latest
Beta LibreOfficeDev_5.3.0.0.beta1_Linux_x86-64. The font used in the examples
is
Linux Libertine 5.3.0 (LinLibertineTTF_5.3.0_2012_07_02.tgz).

The characters fall into three groups:
1. Zero-width non-joiner and Zero-width non-break space and the combining breve
   below cause additional space at the character's position.
2. Zero-width joiner and Combining acute accent cause additional space AFTER
the
   word.
3. Zero-width space and Word joiner display just fine.

I guess the difference between groups 1 and 2 is that the characters in group 2
trigger a built-in smartfont behaviour in the font, while the characters in
group 1 don't.

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 Attachment #117537|0   |1
is obsolete||

--- Comment #4 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
Created attachment 129026
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Better test document: Continuing text flow shows increased spacing after the
affected words

This is an improved test document. The test words are repeated. The continuing
text flow shows how some words get the wrong increased spacing after the word.

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Created attachment 117568
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screenshot of document, print preview, and character preview

I can reproduce.

The screenshot shows, top to bottom, document, print preview, and character
preview.

Windows Vista 64
Version: 4.4.5.2
Build ID: a22f674fd25a3b6f45bdebf25400ed2adff0ff99

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93033] FORMATTING: Expanded spacing on zero-width characters

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93033

--- Comment #1 from j_mach_w...@shared-files.de ---
Created attachment 117542
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Test document display

Test document display on 4.4.5.2 and 5.0.0.4 builds on Windows (8.1), Mac
(10.10.4) and Linux (Lubuntu 15.04).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93033] FORMATTING: Expanded spacing on zero-width characters

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93033

j_mach_w...@shared-files.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66
   ||819

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