[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96327

--- Comment #13 from Commit Notification 
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Gabriele Ponzo committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-5-1":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=44c3447b9be9c8f70932cdbfc25e9b0961a3d0eb=libreoffice-5-1

tdf#96327: Fix accelerator for remote files

It will be available in 5.1.1.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Now if only we could do something about bug 92516

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #11 from Gabriele Ponzo  ---
Glad to have been helpful with this very first patch.

Who should close this bug?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Closing. Thanks!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96327

--- Comment #9 from Commit Notification 
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Gabriele Ponzo committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=43adbc8489cd724545a6cde72a8720a76ac554f0

tdf#96327: Fix accelerator for remote files

It will be available in 5.2.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #10 from Cor Nouws  ---
Thanks Gabriele :) ! This shortcut annoyed me for a long time already.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #8 from Beluga  ---
(In reply to Gabriele Ponzo from comment #7)
> I've moved accelerator from F to S as suggested.
> 
> Thanks to _david_ for pushing the patch.

Ah, it is here: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/21898/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #7 from Gabriele Ponzo  ---
I've moved accelerator from F to S as suggested.

Thanks to _david_ for pushing the patch.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #6 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
Changing 'E' in Templates which was set since 4.2 would result in additional
translation work for no real benefit. Changing 1 entry rather than 2 would
always be the best solution.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96327

Beluga  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |minor

--- Comment #2 from Beluga  ---
(In reply to tommy27 from comment #1)
> tested in recent LibO 5.2.0.0 alpha
> 
> I see no conflict since if you hit "F" it opens the remote files window
> while if you hit "alt+F" it opens the File menu
> 
> moreover I see that "e" is already assigned to Templates
> 
> am i missing something?

Both F and alt-F open Remote files for me.

Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 81fa5340191baf8687f9c82f1f414f5afc86b529
Threads 4; Ver: Windows 6.1; Render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@62-merge-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-12-03_21:19:19
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #3 from tommy27  ---
you are right... probably I did some mistakes before but now I see the bug too
under Win8.1 x64

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #4 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #0)
> The "F" mnemonic accelerator chosen for the new "Remote _File" feature on
> the StartCenter conflicts with the +F shortcut on the main menu.

Its a bug in the start center that Alt+F is opening remote files.

> Suggest better UX if the accelerator in the StartCenter UI configuration
> file is changed to "E", i.e. to "R_emote File" in the startcenter.ui file.

Like tommy mentioned, E is taken by T_emplates and the only letter in 'Remote
Files' that isnt used in the menu bar and other buttons in 'S'. But similar to
the discussion before between the Tools menu and Templates, i dont see a
problem with the menu bar and buttons using the same accelerators as the menu
bar is only accessible with Alt.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Sorry, sight garb on my part is suggesting "e" which we assigned to T_emplates
rather than "T" which is a top level Short-cut assigned to the main menu.

While they are different assignments (accelerators vs. short-cut key) they have
an impact on the user experience if they are not assigned uniquely.

We need *clarity* and preciseness in accelerator and short-cut behavior on the
StartCenter because we do not translate some of the elements. And the .UI based
StartCenter already has issues with OS/DE handling keyboard navigation.

That, coupled with Simon Long's rework for gtk3 support of hiding the
accelerator and short-cut indicator underlines, makes inconsistency issues more
troubling. 

So, here is an alternative, what about changing two?  And assigning from the
English phoneme.

Remote Files gets the "e" -- R_emote

Templates gets the "p" -- Tem_plates 

The "m" already assigned to Math for the formula editor.

@Jay, in addition to deconflicting Tools and Template, we did similar for the
two Help entries (see bug 80477).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96327] Start Center: "F" accelerator for "Remote Files" conflicts with "alt+F" accelerator for "File" menu

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tommy27  changed:

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 CC||ba...@quipo.it
  Component|LibreOffice |UI
Summary|UI - StartCenter "F"|Start Center: "F"
   |accelerator for Remote  |accelerator for "Remote
   |_Files conflicts with use   |Files" conflicts with
   |of +F main menu|"alt+F" accelerator for
   |shortcut|"File" menu

--- Comment #1 from tommy27  ---
tested in recent LibO 5.2.0.0 alpha

I see no conflict since if you hit "F" it opens the remote files window while
if you hit "alt+F" it opens the File menu

moreover I see that "e" is already assigned to Templates

am i missing something?

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