[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer table Split Merged Cell - enhancement request "Undo merge" i.e. split fast to rows/columns of the surrounding cells
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Heinrich Hartl from comment #19) > I do not understand what "spawn" property means. The merged cells get internally a "spawn" property. If you open Regina's example and look into the file (rename to zip, open content.xml) you find the actual odf content somewhere at the bottom. In a nutshell: spawn = merge (in my sloppy comments here). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer table Split Merged Cell - enhancement request "Undo merge" i.e. split fast to rows/columns of the surrounding cells
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #19 from Heinrich Hartl --- Hallo Heiko, I do not understand what "spawn" property means. May I ask you to help me with some explanation. Searching bugzilla for spawn was not yielding helpful info. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer table Split Merged Cell - enhancement request "Undo merge" i.e. split fast to rows/columns of the surrounding cells
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Component|LibreOffice |Writer Keywords|needsUXEval | CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com |.freedesktop.org| Blocks||107707 --- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze --- To conclude, on a cell level the merge action can be reverted while there is no info about the previous layout if full rows/cols got merged into one. Nevertheless we could implement a command that clears the "spawn" property from tables - and is just disabled if there isn't any. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107707 [Bug 107707] [META] Writer table enhancements requests -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer table Split Merged Cell - enhancement request "Undo merge" i.e. split fast to rows/columns of the surrounding cells
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added Version|5.0.6.3 release |Inherited From OOo Summary|Writer Table Split Merged |Writer table Split Merged |Cell - Enhancement request |Cell - enhancement request |"Undo merge"|"Undo merge" i.e. split ||fast to rows/columns of the ||surrounding cells CC||c...@nouenoff.nl -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #17 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #12) > Created attachment 148517 [details] > Example with merged cells and explanation Sorry, missed that. Your example requires the spawn info, doesn't it? A1 (In reply to Heinrich Hartl from comment #16) > In all the examples I dissected columns were never deleted by merge. What was this originally? (4x4 table, cols 1+2 and 3+4 merged then 1+2 merged, saved as fodg) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #16 from Heinrich Hartl --- Hallo Heiko, I could imagine that "unmerge" is invoked with either cells selected (may be entire table or a single eventually merged cell or whatever subset of the table) or with the cursor in a cell. That case should be treated same as if that cell was selected. The command given by "unmerge" then would be to recreate i.e. make visible all the covered cells in the selected domain. There is no ambiguity. In all the examples I dissected columns were never deleted by merge. So I can answer why not 20 cells - there are 6 columns! Even if columns were deleted above definition of the command semantic is clear. Recreate an eventually lost entire (empty) column can be done by insert column analogous to insert row. So it is not about undoing respective recreating what may have existed before but to make visible the row/column structure and make sure that in some selected range there is no merged cell nor a covered cell thus re-exposing all parts to standard editing. To raise a valid argument about what might be possible or not I suggest to raise it with an example. Dissecting may in many cases provide a clear answer! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #14) > You can only use information, which is available. So an "unmerge" would > result in 6 cells. And why not in 8 or 20? Do I know the original layout? And given there are more than one split operations, which one is to take - if the "original" layout is stored somehow? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #14 from Regina Henschel --- You can only use information, which is available. So an "unmerge" would result in 6 cells. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #12) > If you start with a 6col,2row table and then merge A1,B1,C1 and merge > D1,E1,F1 and after that merge the two merged cells, you get the same as > merging A1,B1,C1,D1,E1,F1 immediately. How do you and Heinrich expect the unmerge command to work on the resulting 1 col x 1 row table? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #12 from Regina Henschel --- Created attachment 148517 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=148517&action=edit Example with merged cells and explanation (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #10) > Summarizing, the request is to split merged cells. It's not about undoing > the merge. Indeed it is not about "undo", because the previous content of the now covered cell cannot be reconstructed. The request is to restore the previous table structure. > > (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #8) > > The merged cell contains the information, how many rows and columns it > > spans. > Could you please elaborate this? Let's say I start with a table with 6 > columns and merge a) 3 and 3 first and subsequently the 2 or b) all 6 at > once. How is the original table layout stored? If you start with a 6col,2row table and then merge A1,B1,C1 and merge D1,E1,F1 and after that merge the two merged cells, you get the same as merging A1,B1,C1,D1,E1,F1 immediately. The attached file contains an example, how the file source looks for merged cells. > > If there is no clear information about the previous table layout I would not > implement a single-click-split function. Not even talking about the previous > formatting/style. The file format is clear about the structure. I see a need for such feature, because it cannot be done via API. At least I have not found it. But the file source has this information, thus I conclude, that the information is available in core. And then it should be used. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #11 from Heinrich Hartl --- The argument "merge is lossy" is correct but what is lost? Visibility of covered cells and implicitely editing of covered cells. Merging may delete fully covered rows. The contents of the covered cells is moved/appended to the topmost left cell that remains visible. The width of the covered cells is not lost but is preserved in the column width. Special settings for cell borders are lost. I try to go through this list to discuss reverting merge / unmerge. Unmerge can re-establish visibility and width of covered cells and thus also re-enable editing of cell properties for those cells. Implicitely deleted rows can be recreated by insert row. Contents can be moved to the now visible cells. Special border settings can be set. A very reasonable border setting can be derived from the border setting of the topmost left cell. To summarize: most important - full editing capability is re-enabled by unmerge/split. Loss by merge that cannot be recovered is confined to empty cells and decoration. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze --- Summarizing, the request is to split merged cells. It's not about undoing the merge. (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #8) > The merged cell contains the information, how many rows and columns it spans. Could you please elaborate this? Let's say I start with a table with 6 columns and merge a) 3 and 3 first and subsequently the 2 or b) all 6 at once. How is the original table layout stored? If there is no clear information about the previous table layout I would not implement a single-click-split function. Not even talking about the previous formatting/style. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org --- Comment #9 from Buovjaga --- (In reply to Heinrich Hartl from comment #6) > Created attachment 148410 [details] > Detailled Report of activities to modify mergedcells.odt to mergedcells3.odt > > > I upload Bug101123_Report1.odt that includes in much detail what I found > when dissecting the archive mergedcells.odt (148389: Writer table with > merged cells) and how i wanted to change content.xml. We see here the problem I mentioned in my comment 3: the merging operation is lossy. The original table *had 6 rows*. Thus, your unmerge was not successful. Let's ask UX team anyway, if a "simple unmerge" would be desirable (ie. "The Rows You See Are What You Get" -type of thing). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Regina Henschel changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de --- Comment #8 from Regina Henschel --- I like the idea of a 1-click unmerge. Unmerge could be done by split, but that opens a dialog and the user needs to control the settings. I would not mix such feature with the current split, but use a separate command. There is no principle problem to get the cells. The merged cell contains the information, how many rows and columns it spans. A problem is, which width and height to use for the now visible cells, especially if above/below or left/right have different settings. Another problem is, which style to use. In Writer the style information is not kept, but the covered cells are totally empty. That is different from Calc, where a covered cell can keep its style information. At least using the settings from the associated template would be possible or the styles from column and row default, if such exists. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Heinrich Hartl changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #148411|while mergedcells.odt has a |mergedcells3.odt is description|table with merged cells |document mergedcells.odt |mergedcells3.odt is that|with merging undone |same table with merging | |undone | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #7 from Heinrich Hartl --- Created attachment 148411 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=148411&action=edit while mergedcells.odt has a table with merged cells mergedcells3.odt is that same table with merging undone The "corrected" archive mergedcells3.odt is the same document as mergedcells.odt where undoing the merge of cells is done manually by editing content.xml. Unfortunately it is not perfect. When opening with writer please allow writer to correct things in the document. I am glad that then you get to see the desired result. The table cells are regenerated. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #6 from Heinrich Hartl --- Created attachment 148410 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=148410&action=edit Detailled Report of activities to modify mergedcells.odt to mergedcells3.odt I upload Bug101123_Report1.odt that includes in much detail what I found when dissecting the archive mergedcells.odt (148389: Writer table with merged cells) and how i wanted to change content.xml. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #5 from Buovjaga --- Created attachment 148389 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=148389&action=edit Writer table with merged cells Ok, try to undo this merge. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request "Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Heinrich Hartl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #4 from Heinrich Hartl --- Hi Buovjaga, your last comment says, that the assumption "the coverage of a merged cell is internally known" is not true. And therefore you decided to set "WontFIx". I am prepared to demonstrate that the assumption is true. I suggest you supply a testcase with a table that has merged cells. I will dissect that document i.e. extract the xml inside the .ods file I will write pseudo code that elaborates the coverage I will attach my results to this bug I ask you to have look on what I will have found and to reconsider setting "New". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request " Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsDevAdvice | Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #3 from Buovjaga --- "since the coverage of a merged cell is internally known" This is not true. It is not possible to do what you request. The operations are lossy, not lossless. Consider that you could completely redesign your table by various splits and merges. No algorithm could know, what the user wants with such an "Undo merge" feature in each case. Closing as WONTFIX. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request " Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Heinrich Hartl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request " Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 --- Comment #2 from Heinrich Hartl --- Hi Xcisco, my wording is bad. UNDO is somewhat ambigous. With the UNDO function I can step backwards on my chain of recent transformations. This functionality is fine but it is no help when the merging is not on my list of recent actions. My request was for a functionality that can revert merged cells to the unmerged status irrespective of when in the past the merger was done, e. g. in an editing session long before. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request " Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #1 from Xisco Faulí --- Hi Heinrich, If I create a table, I can split any of the cells and the undo the action. Unfortunately without clear steps to reproduce it, we cannot track down the origin of the problem. Please provide a clearer set of step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the problem. I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' once the steps are provided -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request " Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Jean-Baptiste Faure changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|normal |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101123] Writer Table Split Merged Cell - Enhancement request " Undo merge"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101123 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needAdvice CC||todven...@suomi24.fi -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
