[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105447] "About LibreOffice" keyboard shortcut in "Help" menu

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |philip...@hotmail.com
   |desktop.org |

--- Comment #7 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Patch is in - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/33646

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105447] "About LibreOffice" keyboard shortcut in "Help" menu

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #5)
> @Heiko, @Adolfo: What about you?

Ideally the first letter should be the accelerator, so yes.


/cite (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms971323.aspx)
* Make access keys discoverable.

  Access keys must be easy for the user to find. Choose letters for access keys
as close to the beginning of the label as possible — for example, Settings. The
following are good letter choices:
  ** Letters at the beginning of the first or second word of the label.
  ** A distinctive consonant or a vowel in the label.
  ** Letters with wide widths, such as w, m, and capital letters.

  Avoid using letters that are difficult to see when they are assigned to
access keys. These letters include:
  ** Letters with descenders, such as p, g, q, or y.
  ** Letters next to a letter with a descender.
  ** Letters that are only one pixel wide, such as i or l.

* Avoid duplicating access keys.
* Do not use access keys for default buttons or buttons in dialog box
templates.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105447] "About LibreOffice" keyboard shortcut in "Help" menu

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||f...@libreoffice.org,
   ||tietze.he...@gmail.com
 Blocks||98259

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
I would be infavour of the change based on comment 3 and comment 4. Only
downside is retranslation. :D

@Heiko, @Adolfo: What about you?


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98259
[Bug 98259] [META] Keyboard shortcuts and accelerators bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105447] "About LibreOffice" keyboard shortcut in "Help" menu

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tommy27  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||ba...@quipo.it
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from tommy27  ---
I agree with Ovari
when possible, shortcuts should be assigned to first letters.
status NEW

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105447] "About LibreOffice" keyboard shortcut in "Help" menu

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Óvári  changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #3 from Óvári  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> Why?
Hopefully this will provide some clear purpose why the change…

Cleaning the LibreOffice code was criticised by some as a waste of time as it
did not provide any extra functionality; however, long term it was the right
decision…

Helping people over the phone, you can ask them to press Alt+H then the letter
‘A’; same as other creditable programs…

LibreOffice will be consistent with other programs with ‘A’ as the keyboard
shortcut for “About...”. Examples of the these programs:
Audacity http://www.audacityteam.org/
FileZillahttps://filezilla-project.org/
Firefox  https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/
GIMP https://www.gimp.org/
Microsoft Office 
Nemo Linux Mint file manager
Thunderbird  https://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/
VLC  https://www.videolan.org/
I’m sure you can find programs that do not have “A” as the keyboard shortcut;
however, it seems that creditable programs do use “A”…

Perhaps it is in the Human Interface Guidelines (HIG)…

Thank you

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
Version|5.3.0.1 rc  |Inherited From OOo
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Why?

No conflict with the accelerator selected. It has been set to this accelerator
for duration, not clear a change would serve any purpose.

=-ref-=

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu#5375

and its unit test

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/configmgr/qa/unit/data.xcd#4552

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105447] "About LibreOffice" keyboard shortcut in "Help" menu

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--- Comment #1 from Óvári  ---
Created attachment 130572
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=130572=edit
screen shot showing current keyboard shortcut for "About LibreOffice"

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