[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

--- Comment #10 from andreas_k  ---
we can also say use gnome in gnome LibreOffice look good. If you use Microsoft
Windows it's your fault, that LibreOffice tabs look like 1999.

sorry for the hard words, but if you have a look at the attachment it didn't
look good.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

--- Comment #9 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #8)
> I also don't see much benefit in the wide tabs layout in the current tabbed
> notebookbar as shown in the screenshot from Andreas. You will have too few
> space on small screens and it is a design users don't know from elsewhere.
> MSO 2013 hasn't so wide tabs, see
> https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=132532

The difference between LO and MSO is that MSO's ribbon (and entire app) is
fully themed by them, which unfortunately LO doesnt have. Tiny sized tabs are
more difficult to hit with a mouse or a with a touch screen, but we are
designing it for screens that are 1280px wide or more, but a user's OS theme
will always cause issues that we wont forsee.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

Thomas Lendo  changed:

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 CC||thomas.le...@gmail.com

--- Comment #8 from Thomas Lendo  ---
I would vote against a minimum width of tabs because it wouldn't fit into the
OS design and the mouse ways would be longer when switching through the tabs
for searching a setting.

I also don't see much benefit in the wide tabs layout in the current tabbed
notebookbar as shown in the screenshot from Andreas. You will have too few
space on small screens and it is a design users don't know from elsewhere. MSO
2013 hasn't so wide tabs, see
https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=132532

(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #7)
> We would likely be moving to horizontal tabs/tree for dialogs, similar to
> the hyperlink dialog, so that would fix the issue as it wouldnt be OS themed.
There were reasons for Mozilla switching from a vertical settings tree (sidebar
layout) to a horizontal settings tab layout long ago (the last change was an
issue of space I assume). Users are more confident with a tabbed horizontal
layout as most of LibO's dialogs have it today. Users with LTR and RTL writing
can easier search for horizontal information.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

--- Comment #7 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #6)
> I think it's wonderfull, that LibreOffice will use the OS design, but my kde
> tabs didn't look like in LibreOffice in addition in MS the tabs look also
> out of place.

Yes that is reported in bug 105884.

> with option 2 you can fix this issue by a workaround and it would help to
> arrange the dialogs with more than 4 tabs.

We would likely be moving to horizontal tabs/tree for dialogs, similar to the
hyperlink dialog, so that would fix the issue as it wouldnt be OS themed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

--- Comment #6 from andreas_k  ---
at the first tabbed bar implementation there was no minimum wide defined, with
the minimum wide it look way better.

I think it's wonderfull, that LibreOffice will use the OS design, but my kde
tabs didn't look like in LibreOffice in addition in MS the tabs look also out
of place.

with option 2 you can fix this issue by a workaround and it would help to
arrange the dialogs with more than 4 tabs.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||102019


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102019
[Bug 102019] [META] Dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl,
   ||philip...@hotmail.com,
   ||tietze.he...@gmail.com,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Blocks||103184

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
As the look of dialog tabs are defined by a users OS theme, nothing can be done
here other than telling a user to change their theme.

So from my point of view this is WONTFIX.

@Stuart, @Cor, @Heiko: whats your take?


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103184
[Bug 103184] [META] UI theming bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

--- Comment #4 from andreas_k  ---
Idea one
- add vertical padding/margin
- define a minimum width
- all tabbs width is the dialog width

Idea two
- move the tabs to the left as a sidebar
- you can group the entries in groups and subgroups
- better for widescreen
- a lot of work

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-04-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

andreas_k  changed:

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 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED
 Ever confirmed|1   |0

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-03-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

--- Comment #3 from andreas_k  ---
good example how a minimum wide for tabs would help.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/b/b3/Colors_5.1-5-3.jpeg

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-03-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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andreas_k  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from andreas_k  ---
Created attachment 131751
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=131751&action=edit
tabbs layout in dialog

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106323] tab layout in dialogues

2017-03-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323

Xisco FaulĂ­  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Xisco FaulĂ­  ---
Could you please explain more in detail what you mean? you can attach a mockup
or point to some current dialogs where the problem is seen.

I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
'UNCONFIRMED' once the requested information is provided.

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