[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Summarizing the input from UX (primarily my own opinion): Toolbars are controls
for frequently used functions, and I'm against abusing it for just information.
If we show information it should be at the statusbar or even better at a
dedicated styles inspector (bug 112852, bug 115311, bug 88559).

=> WF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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--- Comment #7 from Cor Nouws  ---
The request is the UNO-command to be able to show simple information, that
makes it easier to recognize a style in the case mentioned, has my sympathy.
The proposed way to implement the thing, not. So I would suggest some further
thinking.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I'm against too many commands. And I agree with Jay that showing font
information is not needed. It sounds like a can of worms as name and size are
just two parameters that most users are aware of unlike indentation or spacing,
for example. Toolbars are means to access frequently used functions and not to
show information, strictly speaking. If we show information that has to be in
the statusbar.

WF IMHO.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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--- Comment #5 from LibreTraining  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) from comment #3)

> 
> > And for the same reason you added it to
> > the toolbar, I want to have it visible but without the possibility that a
> > colleague can do direct formatting with it.
> 
> Well if others agree its a good idea, then the better option would be to
> have an argument added onto the existing uno commands that just disables
> user input, something like .uno:CharFontName?Enabled:short=0

Word has a feature where you can disable any direct formatting.
Users can only use the template pre-defined styles.

This prevents receiving "style soup" documents from inexperienced users.

This is very useful when multiple users are supplying documents to be combined
or imported into a larger publication.

It sounds like these UNO commands could also help achieve that goal.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117022
[Bug 117022] [META] Style-focused formatting toolbar
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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--- Comment #4 from Thomas Lendo  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #3)
> (In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #2)
> > And for the same reason you added it to
> > the toolbar, I want to have it visible but without the possibility that a
> > colleague can do direct formatting with it.
> Well if others agree its a good idea, then the better option would be to
> have an argument added onto the existing uno commands that just disables
> user input, something like .uno:CharFontName?Enabled:short=0
I'm fine with that (it should be as easy implemented as possible) as long as
such argument can be added with the Customization dialog.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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--- Comment #3 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #2)
> I'm aware of the contradictory essence of this request, but the direct
> formatting buttons (hidden or visible) in the styles formatting toolbar are
> only a crutch till style equivalents are available. This is also true for
> font name and font size controls.

Which is why i'm for creating style equivalent version of the font name and
font size controls (bug 107865).

> And for the same reason you added it to
> the toolbar, I want to have it visible but without the possibility that a
> colleague can do direct formatting with it.

Well if others agree its a good idea, then the better option would be to have
an argument added onto the existing uno commands that just disables user input,
something like .uno:CharFontName?Enabled:short=0

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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--- Comment #2 from Thomas Lendo  ---
I'm aware of the contradictory essence of this request, but the direct
formatting buttons (hidden or visible) in the styles formatting toolbar are
only a crutch till style equivalents are available. This is also true for font
name and font size controls. And for the same reason you added it to the
toolbar, I want to have it visible but without the possibility that a colleague
can do direct formatting with it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114943] UNO command controls to only showing font name and font size

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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   |text information|only showing font name and
   ||font size

--- Comment #1 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
I dont see the benefit of such uno commands, because if the control only
displays the font name and font size, users would still want to be able to
change them without having to open a dialog and use the 'update style' button
to apply it to the given style, similar to using the 'update style' button with
font color, which is why font name and font size are available in the toolbar
but hidden by default for those who want to utilize them, or any of the other
hidden direct formatting options from the formatting toolbar. So this is a
WONTFIX for me.

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