[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|2020.isha.de...@ves.ac.in |libreoffice-b...@lists.free ||desktop.org Status|ASSIGNED|NEW --- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze --- Patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/135246 was abandoned due to inactivity, reverting assignee status. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |2020.isha.de...@ves.ac.in |desktop.org | Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #11 from Mike Kaganski --- For the context (this partially repeats some bits from attachment 162773, and also adds some missing parts). The option to *take the system input language into account* had been introduced in 2001 in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=1035. It had received requests then to make it optional, e.g. its comm. 6, and in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=100762. Our bug 36324 had introduced the UI option to disable the feature, but not the discussed functionality. The option had been implemented initially for Writer, and for Windows (OOo bug had even a comment telling "on Unix I see no chance"). However, lately Jan-Marek had committed https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/9d96088c2832b681ae079b29cbc977231674ad52, with support for Qt5 (so it is expected that v.7.2 will *partially* support it on Linux). The "See Also" bug tdf#108151 covers the missing OS support bits, and bugs tdf#34142 and tdf#127898 - the missing component support bits. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #10 from chris...@labs.epiuse.com --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #9) It was a way of reiterating (partial) disagreement. In comment #6 I argued that the label should mention Writer UNTIL all modules are made to behave similarly. I know your time is very limited, but if one of us says we should do A for this reason and the other B for that reason without engaging with each other's argument, I'm afraid we'll soon end up talking past each other. When I filed this report I did not know whether this option was meant to apply to a) Writer only or b) all modules. The response to a) would be to change the label; the response to b) would be to extend the option to all modules. You wrote in comment #5 that b) is true. The summary of this report has been changed and is now about renaming, close to what would have been the response to a), but - taking your comment into account - not quite. Should it not be about renaming AND THEN about extending the option to the other modules? Renaming without mentioning Writer (as you wrote in comment #5) would be fine, IF the extension of the option to all modules were to be done soon afterwards. This does not seem likely, however. In the meantime, how are users supposed to find out that the option does not work in other modules? Well, they could test it, as I did. Do you really expect that? Again, I know time is limited. I understand that any change to labels must be translated into many languages, so the effort is multiplied. But I believe that labeling that reflects what the software does is best for the users. When the software changes, the labels can change with it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #9 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to christos from comment #8) > This report is not about changing labels to reflect bugs (see, in > particular, the description and suggestions in the PDF attachment and also > comment #6). Hey, do you claim that I called that this is "about changing labels to reflect bugs"? You reacted on my very specific comment, where I wrote that I don't see problems in changing the wording, just mentioned *one* thing that should not be done. You started to discuss this nuance, which *is* about reflecting bugs (specifically, the function in question is *not* intended to be limited to Writer, and that it *is* is a bug); and in the course, you substituted the argument. Again: please rename, as long as you don't mention Writer in the setting label. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #8 from chris...@labs.epiuse.com --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7) > (In reply to christos from comment #6) > > At any given time, the labels must not be changed to reflect bugs. This report is not about changing labels to reflect bugs (see, in particular, the description and suggestions in the PDF attachment and also comment #6). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #7 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to christos from comment #6) At any given time, the labels must not be changed to reflect bugs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #6 from chris...@labs.epiuse.com --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #5) > Just don't mention Writer. The setting is not intended to be limited; if it > is, it's just a missing implementation/bug, not something to make the norm. At any given time, should the labels reflect what the software does or what it would do if certain known bugs were not there? I would choose the former; the latter is, well, an additional bug. So Writer should be mentioned until c) in #comment 2 is done. Suggested label changes following the discussion so far: 1. Language Of > Localization 2. Enhanced Language Support > Other 3. Ignore system input language > Input method changes language in Writer -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 --- Comment #5 from Mike Kaganski --- Just don't mention Writer. The setting is not intended to be limited; if it is, it's just a missing implementation/bug, not something to make the norm. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134628] Rename "Ignore system input language" in language options
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134628 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner, ||easyHack, skillDesign, ||topicDesign Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Summary|UI labels in Options - |Rename "Ignore system input |Languages dialog: "Ignore |language" in language |system input language" |options |unclear in scope (relevant | |LO modules) and meaning | CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org Severity|normal |enhancement Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- So let's do the renaming. The one who picks up the topic might decide if and what term to use instead of “Enhanced language support”. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
