[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2023-02-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152184

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2023-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from steve  ---
*** Bug 153329 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2023-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2023-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from steve  ---
This is not limited to macOS, setting OS to all, since at least also windows is
affected.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
AC consists of ~50 colors while SC is limited to 10. There is no way to
completely get rid of it. My take is to follow with AC the SC but allow to edit
it. Ideally per extension.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152184

--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Sierk Bornemann from comment #8)
> from dupe bug 152270#c3  Sierk Bornemann 2022-12-05 13:21:29 UTC

> I side with steve.
> 
> Why not following the way, the OS vendor shows how to do it on its own
> platform with same or similar apps to achieve consistency platform-wide?

And that requires we implement extensive native code to do so. As a
cross-platform project we are resource constrained and unable to follow the
latest os/DE widget and UI development. Implementing the same features 3 or 4
times in "native" code is resource intensive. Both to code and to maintain.

Cross-platform functionality is the core metric--and that does not require
exclusively "native" code for each feature. Just when it is necessary to
function.

Adopting each DE's native code framework is unachievable.

Here the ask is be to more completely consume os/DE theme and apply with
greater granularity to our Application colors. AC that admittedly need to be
refactored to accommodate a mix of system theme and application UI elements. 
That is a cross platform task requiring a mix of "native" and core framework
code to achieve effectively.

The WONTFIX for macOS here is fair, but os/DE theming of SC and LibreOffice AC
does need to be rearchitected as to specific goals. How much "native" code do
we want/need to implement and support in a cross-platform context.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
from dupe bug 152270#c3  Sierk Bornemann 2022-12-05 13:21:29 UTC

I side with steve.

Why not following the way, the OS vendor shows how to do it on its own platform
with same or similar apps to achieve consistency platform-wide?
Take TextEdit.app on macOS: how presents TextEdit.app itself on macOS in dark
mode? With a white paper background or a dark/black background? TextEdit has a
dark/black background, not a white paper background.
Take for instance another Texteditor, a third party Texteditor, take TextMate:
dark or wihite background in ddark mode? It has a dark background. Take
CotEditor, another Texteditor app: also a dark theme, a dark background, when
system wide dark mode is enabled.

So, where is the problem, to follow, what the OS vendor, in this case Apple,
shows how to to it on its own platform? To be consistent on the platform, on
*each* of the OS platforms, with its unique requirements and pecularities
should weigh higher than to be consistent across several platforms while
ignoring the platform specific requirements and peculiarities, above all on the
macOS platform, where this is a very special topic and the users also expect
it, otherwise they do not use the software or only reluctantly and prefer to
use software that adheres to this kind of consistency and specifications and
where this is better observed.



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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152184

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We distinguish between application colors (AC) and system colors (SC). SC come
into play for normal UI controls, like the background on dialogs, the color of
buttons, the font. AC are used for specific content such as the document
background, grid/helplines on the canvas etc. SC are read from the OS, which is
tricky sometimes. AC are defined for bright and dark themes, the later with the
theme Breeze Dark in mind at the beginning but later it got more contrast, for
example.

We cannot mix SC and AC and adjust one AC with something that is defined on the
OS. If users create a pink theme the AC will not blend nicely. => WF

(In reply to steve from comment #0)
> Change Appearance on macOS and note that various elements are not changed.

This would be hard to resolve.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Sill needs UX-Advise, no agreement on how or if to address => UNCONFIRMED

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2022-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The LibreOffice 'Application Colors' "LibreOffice" color scheme is not
sufficiently granular to address all elements of the UI. But what is there is
set to "Automatic" and will respond to the os/DE provided theme color actually
exposed to LibreOffice.

On the other hand, the current "LibreOffice Dark" color scheme (bug 141986)
used many hard coded color assignments, and was necessary because both Windows
and macOS require a lot of missing native code be implemented to fully read
os/DE provided color theme.

Additionally, the application colors are fully in user control and they can be
manually reset from "Automatic" to any UI colors they'd like, and to save and
reapply as a personal color scheme.

Meaning, we already have all that is needed. A change to switch to the fixed
color "LibreOffice Dark" color scheme would not improve things cross platform. 

Rather, improving the framework for the Application Colors and implementing the
native code needed to fully respond to os/DE provided color theme would be
better in the long run.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 152221 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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2022-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 152270 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Caolán McNamara  ---
With the fix for bug #152183 the ui will automatically update to match the
current mode. So some of the "automatic" ones like "Application Background"
will switch from light to dark and so on.

However it sounds a bit like this report wants to automatically switch the
application color scheme from "LibreOffice" to "LibreOffice Dark". We don't do
this for dark mode for Windows or Gtk and it doesn't happen for macOS either.
I'm not sure we want to do that, its not really WYSIWYG if we do it, but if we
do then its not a mac specific issue.

I suggest to wait until the fix for #152183 is in, and if that's not what's
wanted then change this to a general platform-unspecific dark-mode request for
the UITeam to determine.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Julien Nabet  ---
Caolán: as tdf#152183, thought you might be interested in this one since it
concerns dark mode in macOS

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 152184] macOS: dark mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2022-11-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 42082] [META] Make LibreOffice shine and glow on macOS
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2022-11-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 118017] [META] macOS Dark Mode bugs and enhancements
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