[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 46421] FILESAVE Text export: All caps style is not respected

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Cannot reproduce with Format > Text > UPPERCASE nor Format > Character...: Font
Effects > Effects > Case = UPPERCASE. Both stay uppercase after save/reload. 

But ultimately it's NAB but a feature according Andreas' comment.

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--- Comment #15 from Rainer Bielefeld Retired  
---
(In reply to Andreas Heinisch from comment #14)
So it is. Menu 'Format → Character → Font Effects' like "font color", "strike
through", "Relief" and also "Case = Uppercase" only affect the view in the
document, but do not change the ASCII or Unicode. And view (text color or
'"Case = Uppercase"' are not hold in "plain Text"

Proof:
1. Into document type "Text". 
2. Copy / paste that word to a [hexdump viewer](https://8gwifi.org/hexdump.jsp) 
   » shows "00 54 00 65 00 78 00 74"
3. Now apply Menu 'Format → Character → Font Effects  → Case=Uppercase'
   » View changes to "TEXT"
4. Copy / paste that word to hexdump viewer
   » still shows "00 54 00 65 00 78 00 74"

11. Now again into document type "Text". 
13. Now apply Menu 'Format → Text → "UPPERCASE"
   » View changes to "TEXT", looks completely like in step (3). But ...
14. Copy / paste that word to hexdump viewer
   » Now shows "00 54 00 45 00 58 00 54" ❗  
Operation (13) changed the Characters, not the view.

Another proof:
21. Highlight "TEXT" from from (3) → apply Context Menu Clear Direct Formatting
   » goes back to "Text", because the code of the characters did not change 
 in (3), only the view.
22. Highlight "TEXT" from from (13) → apply Context Menu Clear Direct
Formatting
   » Remains "TEXT", because word is made of capital letters

So I agree, this one is INVALID.

But may wording in the menus and help should be improved to avoid such
misunderstanding?

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--- Comment #14 from Andreas Heinisch  ---
Question is whether this really is a bug. LO online help says:
"When you apply formatting to your text by Format - Character, the text stays
the same, it is only displayed in another way. On the other hand, when you
choose Format - Text or Format - Text - Change Case, the text is permanently
changed."

So should these character formats be applied during the export or not.

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--- Comment #11 from Beluga  ---
Reproduced with steps from comment 1.

Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version: 5.0.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 211c12b9c64facd1c12f637a5229bd6a6feb032a
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2015-04-18_01:51:17
Locale: fi_FI

Ubuntu 14.10 64-bit
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OOO330m19 (Build:6)
tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4

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--- Comment #8 from Urmas  ---
It does not behave as the normal software does. That is the main, irrefutable
argument.

Additionally, how do you suggest to deal with fields and headings? They cannot
be edited, and the font style is the only option to force them uppercase.

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--- Comment #7 from Rainer Bielefeld  ---
Urmas: (In reply to comment #6)
Well, as I told you, you do the wrong edit for your goal. That might be a bug,
but with you, not with LibO.

And as long as you can't contribute the requested arguments, the bug will stay
INVALID, it does not matter what different status your select in the dropdown.

So please contribute comprehensible arguments or close the bug again.

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--- Comment #6 from Urmas  ---
This is in contrary to Word behaviour and definitely is a bug.

Uppercase is an important style property and it cannot be replaced with
physically modifying the text.

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--- Comment #5 from Rainer Bielefeld  ---
Closing Bug because has not been reproduced and due to reporter's inactivity as
INVALID due to lacking information.

@reporter:
Please feel free to reopen this bug if you find out that the problem still
exists with the current stable LibreOffice version and if you can contribute
requested additional information due to
 (especially BugReport Details)!

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--- Comment #4 from Rainer Bielefeld  
2012-02-22 02:11:56 PST ---
Created attachment 57443
  --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=57443
Sample document

... demonstration the difference between formatting methods.

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--- Comment #3 from Rainer Bielefeld  
2012-02-22 00:28:11 PST ---
@Urmas
As I explained that is the wrong edit for your needs.
Please do not state meaningless things like "Change case is irreversible
editing operation". What do you want to tell us? Manuals or other sources for
your expectations? What's your aversion against the correct edit operation
"'Format -> Change Case -> UPPERCASE'"?
This still is NOTABUG in spite of modified Status picker.

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--- Comment #2 from Urmas  2012-02-22 00:20:36 UTC ---
Change case is irreversible editing operation.
I'm talking about 'Format/Character/Effects->Uppercase' style option.

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--- Comment #1 from Rainer Bielefeld  
2012-02-21 22:40:43 PST ---
NOT reproducible with "LibreOffice 3.5.0 German UI/Locale [Build-ID:
7e68ba2-a744ebf-1f241b7-c506db1-7d53735] on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit). I
typed a text line to a WRITER document, applied menu 'Format -> Change Case ->
UPPERCASE', saved as text document and coded text document, both showed
uppercase when reopening document with Writer or arbitrary text editor.

BUT

Effect ist reproducible with "LibreOffice 3.5.0 German UI/Locale [Build-ID:
7e68ba2-a744ebf-1f241b7-c506db1-7d53735] on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit)
when:

1. type a simple text line into new WRITER document
2. select all text
3. Menu 'Format > Character -> Font Effects -> Effects -> Capitals '
   > now all text is in uppercase 
4. Save as text , close document
5. reopen document with Writer or arbitrary text editor
   Expected(?): all text is in uppercase 
   Actual: Text looks as before step 2, "Capitals" is ignored.

For me this all is not unexpected, I the first text the lowercase characters
will be replaced by uppercase characters. But in second test in step 3 only an
information will be modified how characters should be shown in the document,
that information will not be exported to text , and so it's not unexpected that
the text in step 5 does not show all characters as capitals. Also all other
effects from that dialog will not show a visible result in export.txt.

@Urmas
Please feel free to reopen this report if you can contribute Help texts or
similar sources what let expect some other results. 

Please always contribute EXACT information how to reproduce the problem, "
style applied" is much too rare!

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