[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2016-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||98259


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98259
[Bug 98259] [META] Keyboard shortcuts (accelerators)
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2016-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Blocks|36549, 55571, 60251 |101912
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #14 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13)
> This is nowhere near resolved. As in comment 5 still need to instrument the
> /Styles and Formatting Sidebar deck for keyboard shortcuts.

Comment 5 goes beyond the scope of this bug report which isnt what the bug
description was opened for.

> There remains no direct accelerator/shortcut movement to the respective type
> of style on the content panel list: i.e. Paragraph, Character, Frame, Page,
> List, Table in Writer.  

The OP talked about the paragraph style combobox and you are suggesting
improvements to the styles sidebar, so this should be in another bug report.

> Such that entering +<"shortcut">--maybe Alt+P, Alt+C, Alt+F, Alt+P,
> Alt+L, Alt+T--directly opens the content panel list sounding the
> active/selected style.

Only modifiers like alt, shift and ctrl can be used with Fn keys, so F11+Alt+P
wouldnt work.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36549
[Bug 36549] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking bug for issues affecting a11y ATK
and GNOME Orca screen reader support
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55571
[Bug 55571] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking bug for issues related to the Mac OS
X Accessibility API
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60251
[Bug 60251] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking Windows OS accessibility and AT
issues
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101912
[Bug 101912] [META] Accessibility (a11y) bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2016-09-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote  ---
This is nowhere near resolved. As in comment 5 still need to instrument the
/Styles and Formatting Sidebar deck for keyboard shortcuts.

There remains no direct accelerator/shortcut movement to the respective type of
style on the content panel list: i.e. Paragraph, Character, Frame, Page, List,
Table in Writer.  

Such that entering +<"shortcut">--maybe Alt+P, Alt+C, Alt+F, Alt+P, Alt+L,
Alt+T--directly opens the content panel list sounding the active/selected
style.

That at a minimum would move us beyond the present cyclical use of , Tab
and arrow cursor movements to navigate by keyboard only.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2016-09-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #11)
> Filed a bug for this (bug 101896).

I vote for closing this ticket as FIXED as the basic shortcuts are easily
accessible now.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2016-09-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

--- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #9)
> Having the Styles menu for Writer is a definite improvement (thanks Jay!).
> But the menu in Writer is only assigning Paragraph and Character styles with
> .uno:StyleApply actions. We can not style Frames, Pages or Lists from menu
> or by short-cut/accelerator. 

Filed a bug for this (bug 101896).

> Otherwise keyboard navigation does not seem to be fully resolved. Yes menu
> elements have been done for Writer with additions to WriterCommands.xcu --
> but no similar menu with keyboard short-cuts/accelerators have been provided
> for styling paragraphs/characters in Draw/Impress text blocks, nor in Calc
> cells. The Format -> Styles in Calc is un populated. And the Format menu
> entries in Draw/Impress do direct formatting of the drawing objects. 

Didnt add any entries in Calc, as presently we dont have any useful cell
styles, but i could add the current 5 cell styles to the menu. Not possible to
do the same for impress/draw.

> Also, we've done nothing for Keyboard navigation in the Sidebar Styles &
> Formatting (F11) deck, nor in the Sytles dropdown content panel of the
> Properties deck.   In general for navigating the Sidebar we remain bound to
> F10, F6 and a muddled mix of cursor and Tab movements. The very thing direct
> short-cuts/accelerators would simplify.

True, but that doesnt seem to be the issue of this bug report.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2015-12-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Jay, *

(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #8)
> (In reply to Tin Man from comment #0)
> > Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable.
> 
> They are now discoverable with the introduction of the Style menu in 5.1.
> 

...

> 
> I propose closing this.

Having the Styles menu for Writer is a definite improvement (thanks Jay!). But
the menu in Writer is only assigning Paragraph and Character styles with
.uno:StyleApply actions. We can not style Frames, Pages or Lists from menu or
by short-cut/accelerator. 

Otherwise keyboard navigation does not seem to be fully resolved. Yes menu
elements have been done for Writer with additions to WriterCommands.xcu -- but
no similar menu with keyboard short-cuts/accelerators have been provided for
styling paragraphs/characters in Draw/Impress text blocks, nor in Calc cells.
The Format -> Styles in Calc is un populated. And the Format menu entries in
Draw/Impress do direct formatting of the drawing objects. 

Also, we've done nothing for Keyboard navigation in the Sidebar Styles &
Formatting (F11) deck, nor in the Sytles dropdown content panel of the
Properties deck.   In general for navigating the Sidebar we remain bound to
F10, F6 and a muddled mix of cursor and Tab movements. The very thing direct
short-cuts/accelerators would simplify.

So, IMHO don't see this as ready to close. Although it probably needs more
design and discussion of how best to provide full keyboard navigation for
Assistive Technology support.  

Stuart

=-ref-=
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6c189a1eb90012789692344aa7dc418c7ec7f032

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=66a7292f2faf51cc0ba018771a5ab25e8d7b5929


As a suggestion for all interested--when assessing completeness of the UI
please try to navigate using just the keyboard (no mouse)--or better turn off
the display with reliance on just ORCA or NVDA or JAWS to sound your session
navigation. If you can't create useful documents without peeking we're not
meeting the needs of our Accessibility Tools dependent users. Likewise if
navigation is not clear consistent and concise across the modules.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2015-12-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||philip...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #8 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Tin Man from comment #0)
> Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable.

They are now discoverable with the introduction of the Style menu in 5.1.

> I'd suggest showing them to the right of the style name in the style combo
> box in a lighter color, similarly to how keyboard shortcuts are shown in
> menus.

I dont think it would be a good idea to do this, as the combobox isnt a menu
and we have introduced a submenu to entries.

I propose closing this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2015-04-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

Adolfo Jayme  changed:

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 Whiteboard|NeedsDevEval UX-Advise  |needsDevEval

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

Joel Madero  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|ProposedEasyHack UX-Advise  |NeedsDevEval UX-Advise
 CC||jmadero@gmail.com

--- Comment #7 from Joel Madero  ---
In order to limit the confusion between ProposedEasyHack and EasyHack and to
make queries much easier we are changing ProposedEasyHack to NeedsDevEval.

Thank you and apologies for the noise

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2014-02-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

--- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi V Stuart,

I just was about to close (mid air collision ;) ) this as duplicate of bug
62081

This since we discussed at the UX hackfest that keyboard shortcurts can be
properly shown in split menus ..

What do you think?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable

2014-02-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Style keyboard shortcuts|[UX] [a11y] Style keyboard
   |are undiscoverable  |shortcuts are
   ||undiscoverable

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