[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||98259 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98259 [Bug 98259] [META] Keyboard shortcuts (accelerators) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Blocks|36549, 55571, 60251 |101912 Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #14 from Yousuf Philips (jay) --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13) > This is nowhere near resolved. As in comment 5 still need to instrument the > /Styles and Formatting Sidebar deck for keyboard shortcuts. Comment 5 goes beyond the scope of this bug report which isnt what the bug description was opened for. > There remains no direct accelerator/shortcut movement to the respective type > of style on the content panel list: i.e. Paragraph, Character, Frame, Page, > List, Table in Writer. The OP talked about the paragraph style combobox and you are suggesting improvements to the styles sidebar, so this should be in another bug report. > Such that entering +<"shortcut">--maybe Alt+P, Alt+C, Alt+F, Alt+P, > Alt+L, Alt+T--directly opens the content panel list sounding the > active/selected style. Only modifiers like alt, shift and ctrl can be used with Fn keys, so F11+Alt+P wouldnt work. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36549 [Bug 36549] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking bug for issues affecting a11y ATK and GNOME Orca screen reader support https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55571 [Bug 55571] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking bug for issues related to the Mac OS X Accessibility API https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60251 [Bug 60251] [META] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking Windows OS accessibility and AT issues https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101912 [Bug 101912] [META] Accessibility (a11y) bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 --- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote --- This is nowhere near resolved. As in comment 5 still need to instrument the /Styles and Formatting Sidebar deck for keyboard shortcuts. There remains no direct accelerator/shortcut movement to the respective type of style on the content panel list: i.e. Paragraph, Character, Frame, Page, List, Table in Writer. Such that entering +<"shortcut">--maybe Alt+P, Alt+C, Alt+F, Alt+P, Alt+L, Alt+T--directly opens the content panel list sounding the active/selected style. That at a minimum would move us beyond the present cyclical use of , Tab and arrow cursor movements to navigate by keyboard only. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 --- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #11) > Filed a bug for this (bug 101896). I vote for closing this ticket as FIXED as the basic shortcuts are easily accessible now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 --- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay) --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #9) > Having the Styles menu for Writer is a definite improvement (thanks Jay!). > But the menu in Writer is only assigning Paragraph and Character styles with > .uno:StyleApply actions. We can not style Frames, Pages or Lists from menu > or by short-cut/accelerator. Filed a bug for this (bug 101896). > Otherwise keyboard navigation does not seem to be fully resolved. Yes menu > elements have been done for Writer with additions to WriterCommands.xcu -- > but no similar menu with keyboard short-cuts/accelerators have been provided > for styling paragraphs/characters in Draw/Impress text blocks, nor in Calc > cells. The Format -> Styles in Calc is un populated. And the Format menu > entries in Draw/Impress do direct formatting of the drawing objects. Didnt add any entries in Calc, as presently we dont have any useful cell styles, but i could add the current 5 cell styles to the menu. Not possible to do the same for impress/draw. > Also, we've done nothing for Keyboard navigation in the Sidebar Styles & > Formatting (F11) deck, nor in the Sytles dropdown content panel of the > Properties deck. In general for navigating the Sidebar we remain bound to > F10, F6 and a muddled mix of cursor and Tab movements. The very thing direct > short-cuts/accelerators would simplify. True, but that doesnt seem to be the issue of this bug report. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 --- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote --- Jay, * (In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #8) > (In reply to Tin Man from comment #0) > > Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable. > > They are now discoverable with the introduction of the Style menu in 5.1. > ... > > I propose closing this. Having the Styles menu for Writer is a definite improvement (thanks Jay!). But the menu in Writer is only assigning Paragraph and Character styles with .uno:StyleApply actions. We can not style Frames, Pages or Lists from menu or by short-cut/accelerator. Otherwise keyboard navigation does not seem to be fully resolved. Yes menu elements have been done for Writer with additions to WriterCommands.xcu -- but no similar menu with keyboard short-cuts/accelerators have been provided for styling paragraphs/characters in Draw/Impress text blocks, nor in Calc cells. The Format -> Styles in Calc is un populated. And the Format menu entries in Draw/Impress do direct formatting of the drawing objects. Also, we've done nothing for Keyboard navigation in the Sidebar Styles & Formatting (F11) deck, nor in the Sytles dropdown content panel of the Properties deck. In general for navigating the Sidebar we remain bound to F10, F6 and a muddled mix of cursor and Tab movements. The very thing direct short-cuts/accelerators would simplify. So, IMHO don't see this as ready to close. Although it probably needs more design and discussion of how best to provide full keyboard navigation for Assistive Technology support. Stuart =-ref-= http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6c189a1eb90012789692344aa7dc418c7ec7f032 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=66a7292f2faf51cc0ba018771a5ab25e8d7b5929 As a suggestion for all interested--when assessing completeness of the UI please try to navigate using just the keyboard (no mouse)--or better turn off the display with reliance on just ORCA or NVDA or JAWS to sound your session navigation. If you can't create useful documents without peeking we're not meeting the needs of our Accessibility Tools dependent users. Likewise if navigation is not clear consistent and concise across the modules. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 Yousuf (Jay) Philips changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org, ||philip...@hotmail.com --- Comment #8 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips --- (In reply to Tin Man from comment #0) > Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable. They are now discoverable with the introduction of the Style menu in 5.1. > I'd suggest showing them to the right of the style name in the style combo > box in a lighter color, similarly to how keyboard shortcuts are shown in > menus. I dont think it would be a good idea to do this, as the combobox isnt a menu and we have introduced a submenu to entries. I propose closing this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 Adolfo Jayme changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|NeedsDevEval UX-Advise |needsDevEval -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 Joel Madero changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|ProposedEasyHack UX-Advise |NeedsDevEval UX-Advise CC||jmadero@gmail.com --- Comment #7 from Joel Madero --- In order to limit the confusion between ProposedEasyHack and EasyHack and to make queries much easier we are changing ProposedEasyHack to NeedsDevEval. Thank you and apologies for the noise -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 --- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws --- Hi V Stuart, I just was about to close (mid air collision ;) ) this as duplicate of bug 62081 This since we discussed at the UX hackfest that keyboard shortcurts can be properly shown in split menus .. What do you think? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 69550] [UX] [a11y] Style keyboard shortcuts are undiscoverable
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69550 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Style keyboard shortcuts|[UX] [a11y] Style keyboard |are undiscoverable |shortcuts are ||undiscoverable -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs