[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 81786] UI Language list not sorted

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--- Comment #18 from Ulrich Windl  ---
Created attachment 182293
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Screenshot of 7.3.5.2 Windows Installer

(In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #17)
> In the localized (gd-GB) version of the installer of 7.3.5, the list is
> sorted alphabetically. But I can't speak for the English installer.

Using the German Windows installer of 7.3.5.2 the list of dictionary languages
is sorted by language code or by English translation, but NOT by the displayed
translation.

In the screenshot you see that "Deutsch" is sorted like staring with a "G"
(German), and "Schottisch-Gälisch" is also sorted like starting with "G"
(Gaelic?), just as "Ungarisch" is sorted like starting with "H" (Hungarian).

What surprises me most is that this bug survived so many years.
Beginners searching for a language in the ever-growing list will be surprised
in a negative way, I guess.

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--- Comment #17 from Michael Bauer  ---
In the localized (gd-GB) version of the installer of 7.3.5, the list is sorted
alphabetically. But I can't speak for the English installer.

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--- Comment #15 from Michael Bauer  ---
Persists. This is not one of those bugs that will go away on its own...

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--- Comment #8 from Michael Bauer  ---
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new screenshot

The bug persists, this is from the 5.0.4.2 installation dialogue on Windows.

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--- Comment #9 from Michael Bauer  ---
I'm beginning to wonder if this is related to that infernal conflict between
installed keyboard languages and programs/apps when it comes to language
selection. My OS has a Gaelic langpack and 4 installed keyboard locales. Urmas
& Andras, what is your OS setup?

Could it be that LO somehow pulls the sort order from the OS or keyboard locale
but if there is more than one, it defaults somehow to sorting by ISO code?

The reason I'm wondering is because in MS Office, if you have more than one
keyboard locale installed, even when you switch OFF the Detect Language
feature, it gets totally confused and assigns language/locale in a very random
fashion.

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--- Comment #6 from Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org ---
Created attachment 115005
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screenshot of issue

Confirmed during installation of 4.4.2.2 (using the default English Windows
installer as there isn't a localized one for gd).
The list is clearly sorted by ISO codes which is not helpful, it puts Welsh
(cy) right after Czech (cz) and Greek (he) before English (en).
These should be sorted according to the script the installer is using i.e. for
Latin script based installers like English it should sort
Czech (cz)
English (en)
Greek (he)
Welsh (cy)

For Russian
английский (en)
валлийский (cy)
греческий (he)
чешский (cz)

For Chinese radical + stroke number (same as Excel for example) 
威爾士語 (cy)
希臘語 (he)
捷克語 (cz)
英語 (en)

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steve ... st...@openmailbox.org changed:

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--- Comment #4 from steve ... st...@openmailbox.org ---
Could you post a screenshot of the wrong listing?
Do I have to install more than one language to see this happening? Under LO 
Preferences  Language Settings  Languages  User Interface I just see English
(USA).

After providing more info please back to unconfirmed.

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--- Comment #5 from Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com ---
Well, I don't know how much it would help, if Urmas sent a screenshot. I can
imagine such screenshot without sending and I believe that what he says is
true. I could not reproduce the problem on Windows 8.1 and as the author of the
sorting feature, I have no idea why it would not work in certain circumstances. 

See the code at
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/setup_native/source/win32/customactions/sellang/sorttree.cxx
-- it is as simple as it could be.

I'm afraid, if we don't get more confirmations or insightful explanation to the
bug, we have to close it as WORKSFORME.

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--- Comment #2 from A (Andy) stgohi-lob...@yahoo.de ---
for me not reproducible with LO 4.3.0.4 (Win 8.1, German)

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--- Comment #3 from Urmas davian...@gmail.com ---
In German locale it is also unsorted. 'Weißrussisch' comes before 'Bulgarisch'.

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--- Comment #1 from Urmas davian...@gmail.com ---
UPDATE: The dictionaries list is sorted in the same way.

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