[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Muhammet Kara changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |muhammet.k...@pardus.org.tr |desktop.org | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|NEW CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org Assignee|muhammet.k...@pardus.org.tr |libreoffice-b...@lists.free ||desktop.org --- Comment #12 from Xisco Faulí --- Dear developer, This bug has been in ASSIGNED status for more than 3 months without any activity. Resetting it to NEW. Please assigned it back to yourself if you're still working on this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |muhammet.k...@pardus.org.tr |desktop.org | --- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay) --- Me and Heiko are currently revising Heiko's original designs from 2015 blog post in this google doc so it can be worked on during GSoC. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IPXkYMmyXQzoVUdMpnBeoQdf-LNp5_oNaqfW6OFhxqA/edit?usp=sharing -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||108011 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108011 [Bug 108011] Customize window: Commands list should be responsive by keyboard -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||63966 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63966 [Bug 63966] Search feature in Customize Keyboard dialog -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval |needsDevEval, topicUI CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists | |.freedesktop.org| --- Comment #10 from Yousuf Philips (jay) --- kompilainenn's mockups Keyboard tab - attachment 121527 Menus tab - attachment 121539 Toolbars tab - attachment 121543 Events tab - attachment 121544 Heiko's comment in bug 96705: "Regarding your ideas I suggest to give clues about the interaction, e.g. the category list is a filter for the functions list, or assigned and available shortcuts are linked lists (you move items from one list to the other). Could be done by the placement of controls or by having the interaction controls nearby where it has an impact. Anyway, I agree that we need to improve the customization dialog. At least when we get the enhanced toolbar or when the individualization of the sidebar will be possible." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 --- Comment #9 from kompilainenn <79045_79...@mail.ru> --- (In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #8) > kompilainenn submitted an alternative mockup of a redesigned customize > dialog in attachment 121527 [details] (Mockup Keyboard tab in dialogue > Customize) in bug 96705. my bug 96705 has four mockups, for any tabs. This is simple for information -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 --- Comment #8 from Yousuf Philips (jay) --- kompilainenn submitted an alternative mockup of a redesigned customize dialog in attachment 121527 (Mockup Keyboard tab in dialogue Customize) in bug 96705. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||79045_79...@mail.ru --- Comment #7 from Yousuf Philips (jay) --- *** Bug 96705 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||103238 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103238 [Bug 103238] [META] Customize dialog bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Yousuf Philips (jay) changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82 ||840 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Zenaan Harkness changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33 ||232 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Jay Philips changed: What|Removed |Added CC||philip...@hotmail.com --- Comment #5 from Jay Philips --- Created attachment 113721 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113721&action=edit ms office function list While viewing the toolbar customization used in MS Office, i noticed a few features that would be useful to include. 1) An indication when a function is a split button 2) An indication when a function is a group button 3) An indication when a function can take text input -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 --- Comment #4 from Cor Nouws --- Hi Heiko (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3) > 1 (Nasty drop-down menu): I agree that this drop down is not really nice. But > we need to break down the large list of functions into small pieces to avoid > too much browsing. A tree view can be used on the left view with all functions > but that's not possible when items are supposed to get sorted up/down. (read > 'not possible' as 'very unusual'). Looking once more, I must admit that I don't at all understand what the function of the part is that I gave number 1, the rectangle with Edit and Macro's. The reason: once you have selected a toolbar or menu, the list below shows the items present. And setting the focus on e.g. item "Date and time" and then clicking Add would add the new item below there?! (hmm, and what should 'Add' left below that item list do?) > 2 (Keep events with customization, perhaps on a third tab): The basic workflow > follows the dual-list principle where you select an item on the left list with > all options and add it to the right list of selections. I have no idea how > events on a third tab would fit into this workflow. The functions list (left) showing the macro's and the positions list, the events. And when we expect that people want to save/load the customization also on a document level to share functionally restricted templates, than that looks as a logic link with events (that are applied to templates). > 4 (Search for uno:commands): I would allow to search for function names as a > hidden expert feature. But this information does not need to be shown in first > place. Maybe on the details dialog. Unless people know the name of a uno command and want to search that. Definitely those users exist. > 5 (How to store data): We postponed the discussion about implementation of > storage since it's not part of the UI. I'd say that all customization done in > this dialog has to be saved in one reloadable object (separate files, xml > sections, references somewhere). The current implementation allows storage. So I expect it to available too. Would be fine if various items could be combined. But I explained that is not the case now too (And maybe even for reasons that we haven't thought of as for now.) > BTW: If events would be part of this dialog users expect it to be saved with > the menu/toolbar and shortcut customization. Unless specified different: yes. Saving all in one (toolbars, menu, short cuts, events) has the disadvantage that you save customization in one, that can be applied at various levels: application / module / document.. where does that lead us..? > 6 (How to enter a new shortcut): The idea is to focus the input field and > accept any key press as new shortcut. For example you go to the field that > shows ctrl+D and press shift+ctrl+D. Thereupon this shortcut is shown and > accepted as new when the dialog is closed. Still, if the shortcut that I think of, is not available (used already), it's useful that I can just see what is available. Thus the list. Now, what just came to my mind, is a really serious question: how can people assign shortcuts to styles and macro's? In the current implementation that is done by choosing macro's or styles in the lists category and item.. I do not see that option in the current design. For styles, there is of course the wish to make is possible to assign a shortcut somewhere in the style dialog or window styles and formatting. But it's only a wish. One could think of the same in the dialog to run/open a macro. But then the action of assigning shortcuts is scattered around the place, and an overview misses. (Apologies that I've not seen this before. It's hard to find time. But it also shows how tricky this work is. Even when it's published and some people take effort to vote, it's not recognized. Hmm :\ ) > 7 (Button on details dialog): This button opens the dialog for selection of a > new image. The caption should be shown to make it clear. I thought of that option, but then would have expected to be closer to the icon shown ;) Summary: I very much like the easiness of finding functions, and applying directly or by drag and drop. That could even be extended by implementing dragging from the functions list to the toolbar or menu itself (would save selecting the desired one for the properties list.) I'm not at all convinced however that restrictions that seem to be planned for events and shotcuts, will make people happy. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 --- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze --- Thank you for taking the time to read the text carefully. If we start any redesign we need to consider all requirements and use cases. (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #1) > Attached a file with ideas, comments, questions. 1 (Nasty drop-down menu): I agree that this drop down is not really nice. But we need to break down the large list of functions into small pieces to avoid too much browsing. A tree view can be used on the left view with all functions but that's not possible when items are supposed to get sorted up/down. (read 'not possible' as 'very unusual'). 2 (Keep events with customization, perhaps on a third tab): The basic workflow follows the dual-list principle where you select an item on the left list with all options and add it to the right list of selections. I have no idea how events on a third tab would fit into this workflow. 3 (How to open the details dialog): Good point. Accessibility should be taken into account. 4 (Search for uno:commands): I would allow to search for function names as a hidden expert feature. But this information does not need to be shown in first place. Maybe on the details dialog. 5 (How to store data): We postponed the discussion about implementation of storage since it's not part of the UI. I'd say that all customization done in this dialog has to be saved in one reloadable object (separate files, xml sections, references somewhere). BTW: If events would be part of this dialog users expect it to be saved with the menu/toolbar and shortcut customization. 6 (How to enter a new shortcut): The idea is to focus the input field and accept any key press as new shortcut. For example you go to the field that shows ctrl+D and press shift+ctrl+D. Thereupon this shortcut is shown and accepted as new when the dialog is closed. 7 (Button on details dialog): This button opens the dialog for selection of a new image. The caption should be shown to make it clear. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu Ever confirmed|0 |1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org Component|UI |ux-advise --- Comment #2 from Cor Nouws --- & set to ux-advice -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88896] Revamp toolbar/menu customization dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added CC||c...@nouenoff.nl --- Comment #1 from Cor Nouws --- Created attachment 112926 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=112926&action=edit document with ideas and comments .. Hi Heiko, as promised, I looked more closely to the details. Attached a file with ideas, comments, questions. Apart from the discussion on how Events and Shortcut-overview can be implemented, I repeat that IMHO it must be part of the same design&implementation-process ;) thanks for all you work here. Really appreciated! Cor -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
