[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89250] FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement a default set of automatic font substitutions for missing fonts

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89250] FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement a default set of automatic font substitutions for missing fonts

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89250] FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement a default set of automatic font substitutions for missing fonts

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--- Comment #18 from Timur  ---
I don't see the point of keeping this bug open with current title. It's bug
64509. 

I'd say that this bug makes sense only for StarSymbol to OpenSymbol, as
written.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89250] FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement a default set of automatic font substitutions for missing fonts

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--- Comment #17 from Heiko Tietze  ---
So let's resolve this issue as font substitution is working in principle.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89250] FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement a default set of automatic font substitutions for missing fonts

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--- Comment #16 from Caolán McNamara  ---
There's a bunch of code in LibreOffice that's supposed to make this "just
work".

If I cut and paste the [] missing symbol character from impress to writer,
select it and in the font name widget in the toolbar hit return there, then it
reformats as a proper bullet. So I think its just that in this specific case
its not working for some reason

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--- Comment #15 from Noel Grandin  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #14)
> 
> Noel, can we go ahead and switch to OpenSymbol?
> 

I'd say that is reasonable, but you'd need to check that OpenSymbol currently
has at least the code points that StarSymbol has or we're going to have
regression complaints :-(

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89250] FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement a default set of automatic font substitutions for missing fonts

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--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
>From the mentioned fontcvt.cxx:

//These conversion tables were designed for StarSymbol. OpenSymbol
//originally didn't have the same code points as StarSymbol, and
//then gained some extra code points, but there are still potentially
//various holes in OpenSymbol which were filled by StarSymbol, i.e.
//destination mapping points which are empty in OpenSymbol

// note: the character mappings that are only approximations
//   are marked (with an empty comment)

Noel, can we go ahead and switch to OpenSymbol?

(Doesn't solve the Wingdings issue but that's a WF for me)

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--- Comment #11 from Jan kant...@sra.uni-hannover.de ---
I digged around in the source code and found unotools/source/misc/fontcvt.cxx.
It actually replaces Webdings, Wingdings, Wingdings2, Wingdings3 (among others)
to StarSymbol. Unfortunately, I do not have StarSymbol and it is probably very
old. They even mentions OpenSymbol in the comments at the beginning. Looks like
a point to start with.

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--- Comment #10 from Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
I believe we do automatically substitute Liberation Serif for Times New Roman
when its not available on a user's system, so doing the same for
Webding/Wingding would also be useful.

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V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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  Component|Presentation|ux-advise
Version|4.2.7.2 release |Inherited From OOo
Summary|FILEOPEN/FORMATTING: Arrows |FILEOPEN: IMPRESS implement
   |Character look strange in   |a default set of automatic
   |Impress |font substitutions for
   ||missing fonts
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Those are not workarounds, and this is not a bug as the feature functions as
designed, and tools are provided to handle incompatible systems.

But, it is not an unreasonable request for enhancement. Technically feasible,
but could have annoying UX impact. Folks would complain equally loud, or
louder, if the default behavior were to become an unsolicited change from
expected fonts--corruption!

We will need to flesh out which font families as candidates for substitution.
And decide on rules for when multiple fonts are missing.  Some, MS Symbols,
Wingdings would with OpenSymbol are pretty obvious. What others?

Setting as enhancement, and over to ux-advise.

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