[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96278

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||102732


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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102732
[Bug 102732] [META] File dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #8)
> The dialog must provide the option to determine the export filter.
If the user doesn't select explicitly a filter (aka dropdown item other than *)
the default is taken (odt for Writer, ods for Calc etc.)

> The dialog has an "automatic file extension" option, which needs the exact
> filter.
See above; if the filename would be specified with a proper extension like
foo.doc the respective format could be used since we also show a confirmation
dialog in this case

> There exists the request, that a default name is provided, bug 58685.
The default file name would be inserted when the dialog opens. So it's not
related to the filter.

> The request here does not distinguish between LO dialog or operating system
> dialog.
I don't see a reason to make the internal dialog different from the system
(AFAIK it was introduced as a workaround for kde4)

> The reporter makes several suggestions. It is not clear, which of them
> should be taken, or perhaps a different way?
My take was to implement the filter like in open dialogs.

> On Windows entering an expression with a * as wildcard in the file name
> field and pressing enter will show only matching files without changing the
> selected filter. For example "*" will show all files or "*3D*" will show all
> files, for which the file name contains "3D" or "*.doc" will show old MS
> Word documents. So for the Windows dialog no action is needed.
The filter is of course a convenience function.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Regina Henschel  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> The enhancement request is to introduce filters in the save dialogs
> according the open dialog with 
> * all files (*.*) and 
> * text documents, spreadsheets, presentations etc. depending on the module
> 
> It's likely an easy hack, please add code pointers.
> 
> (Removing UX)

If bug 58685 is considered too, it is no easy hack.

I think, UX is still needed, because it is not clear yet, how the dialog should
look and work:
The dialog must provide the option to determine the export filter.
The dialog has an "automatic file extension" option, which needs the exact
filter.
There exists the request, that a default name is provided, bug 58685.
The request here does not distinguish between LO dialog or operating system
dialog.
The reporter makes several suggestions. It is not clear, which of them should
be taken, or perhaps a different way?

On Windows entering an expression with a * as wildcard in the file name field
and pressing enter will show only matching files without changing the selected
filter. For example "*" will show all files or "*3D*" will show all files, for
which the file name contains "3D" or "*.doc" will show old MS Word documents.
So for the Windows dialog no action is needed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |easyHack
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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  Component|LibreOffice |UI

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The enhancement request is to introduce filters in the save dialogs according
the open dialog with 
* all files (*.*) and 
* text documents, spreadsheets, presentations etc. depending on the module

It's likely an easy hack, please add code pointers.

(Removing UX)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Robinson Tryon (qubit)  changed:

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   Keywords||needsDevEval
 Whiteboard|needsDevEval|

--- Comment #5 from Robinson Tryon (qubit)  ---
Migrating Whiteboard tags to Keywords: (needsDevEval)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Beluga  changed:

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 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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--- Comment #1 from Beluga  ---
UX: how would you implement this?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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--- Comment #2 from Peter  ---
I mistakenly thought the question was to me :-P

I wrote a response of which I've pasted the text of below in case anyone wants
to see it.

I'm not a programmer and don't know the code so I can only comment on how I
might imagine the interface. 

Simplest:  Down in the lower part have a check box that says "show all file
types."

Most complex: Have a button labeled "show file types."  When pressed it opens
and popup window with a big list of file types and check boxes where each type
can be allowed or hidden.  While I'm dreaming: In that pop up are buttons
"select all", clear all, and maybe invert selection.  An additional custom type
list might be needed by someone.

Mid complexity,  Simplest plus (No pop-up): More checkable boxes than the one
"show all file types" where a limited number of file types can be made visible. 

For most people I think the "simplest" would work fine. 
With that it might be nice be able to select an option that lists files by
type, even while listing all types. 

The choice should become the default. 

The selection and options would need to be different for the different products
(Writer, Base, Cal, etc)

It would be good if when listing multiple file types if the first type listed
was the selected "Save as type"

I hope this is what you were looking for and is helpful.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Whiteboard||needsDevEval easyHack

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
As far as I understand from the first posting you would like to have something
like "File types: Text documents" as known from the open dialog. Your use case
is that saving a file means also to know what other files are located in the
directory in order to synchronize the names, for instance. Sounds reasonable to
me, although it's a common issue for any application.
I think this would be an easy hack (dev should confirm please). The 'filter' in
the standard dialog is usually specified with the default extension but often
you can switch to "all files|*.*", which shows all files in this directory. If
we take the filter from the open dialog with "Text documents|*.doc,*,odt..." it
should not only solve this issue but also add consistency.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Beluga  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Whiteboard|needsDevEval easyHack   |needsDevEval

--- Comment #4 from Beluga  ---
Ok let's set to NEW and leave whiteboard as needsDevEval while we wait for dev
confirmation of easyhackness.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96278] Make all file types visible in file save dialog

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Peter  changed:

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Summary|Make all files viable in|Make all file types visible
   |file save dialog|in file save dialog

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