Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Greyed-out Save settings as... in last dialog of Presentation Minimizer

2013-11-28 Thread Thomas Hackert
Good morning Miguel, *,
On Mittwoch, 27. November 2013 22:03 mariosv wrote:
 6. [Finish]

would lead to the Save as dialog, but only to save the minimized 
presentation ... :(

 7. [Cancel]

Would cancel the whole dialog ... :(

 The option is available.

No. I would expect the possibility to save my settings (be it, that 
I use the default, be it, I have changed something). As the whole 
part is greyed-out, your above mentioned buttons does not lead to 
the possibility to save them ... :(
Thanks for your answer
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

2013-11-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Pedro, *,

Am 27.11.2013 13:48 schrieb Pedro pedl...@gmail.com


 Thank you for adding the 4.2 branch. In fact TB#42 is currently the only
one
 producing dailies for that branch.

The TDF labeled Jones will follow shortly, I need to tweak the build
scripts to work with multiple branches.

 It would be nice if there was some explanation from the devs as to what is
 the goal of each Tinderbox. E.g. Tinderbox #47 produces an installer and
an
 offline help similar to the final one except that it only included en_US
 (therefore the installer is 132Mb in size)

Yes, all the TDF bots build with the release set of features, except that
the builds are en-us only and identify as lo-dev.
They aim to be as close to the public builds as possible.

Ciao
Christian
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Annouce: Bibisect for MACOSX

2013-11-28 Thread bjoern
Hi Norbert,

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 01:32:44PM -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
 I will make it available as annongit clone later.. but due to the size
 it is prolly best to do a http download initially anyway.

I just saw that you made this available on gerrit.libreoffice.org, it seems.
Did you talk to the Infra guys about this? AFAIK, they had severe reservations
about doing such things wrt load and bandwidth on the machine.

I know: People _should_ download the tarball first ... but people dont always
do as they should.

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Re: Annouce: Bibisect for MACOSX

2013-11-28 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

bjoern wrote on 2013-11-28 18:04:

I just saw that you made this available on gerrit.libreoffice.org, it seems.
Did you talk to the Infra guys about this? AFAIK, they had severe reservations
about doing such things wrt load and bandwidth on the machine.


IIRC, this is hosted on a separate VM located on gru, called dev-downloads

Florian
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Bugzilla replacement

2013-11-28 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-11-28 18:48:

Hey guys I would like to propose an alternative to bugzilla.

Redmine, It supports multiple projects as well as integration with LDAP as
well as source control


TDF infra is currently evaluating Redmine for internal purposes, as an 
extension or replacement for OTRS.


However, for replacing Bugzilla it IMHO is unsuitable, as it is more a 
project management tool than a bug tracker. I really, really, would not 
replace Bugzilla.


Florian
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Bugzilla replacement

2013-11-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Redmine though reminds me a lot like launchpad in a way.


On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hi Jonathan,

 Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-11-28 18:48:

 Hey guys I would like to propose an alternative to bugzilla.

 Redmine, It supports multiple projects as well as integration with LDAP as
 well as source control


 TDF infra is currently evaluating Redmine for internal purposes, as an
 extension or replacement for OTRS.

 However, for replacing Bugzilla it IMHO is unsuitable, as it is more a
 project management tool than a bug tracker. I really, really, would not
 replace Bugzilla.

 Florian




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla replacement

2013-11-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Jonathan Aquilina
eagles051...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey guys I would like to propose an alternative to bugzilla.

 Redmine, It supports multiple projects as well as integration with LDAP as
 well as source control

 http://www.redmine.org

 I dunno if now would be a good time seeing as we are moving the bug tracker
 to TDF infrastructure, I think it would be a good time to reevaluate what is
 being used.

 Looking forward to your feedback.

I've only looked at Redmine very briefly, but it does seem like an
interesting tool.

Re: Bugzilla migration, we're currently on Step 1 of what I've termed
the 2-Step process:
Step 1: Migrate the LibreOffice 'product' to its own instance of
Bugzilla running on FDO infra
Step 2: Migrate the LibreOffice bugtracker to TDF infra

To make our current migration go smoothly, I suggest that we continue
with the current Bugzilla migration process for now, and evaluate
Redmine for the future -- perhaps after we have Bugzilla running on
our own infra.

Jonathan: If there is interest in evaluating an alternative to
Bugzilla, please prepare a proposal page on the wiki (similar to
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal)
where you outline the case for moving to Redmine. We'll obviously want
to consider pros and cons of migration, the stability of Redmine as a
project, etc. A proposal like that would be a good first step in any
migration to a different bugtracking system.

Thanks!
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla replacement

2013-11-28 Thread bjoern
Hi, 
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 02:19:59PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
 I've only looked at Redmine very briefly, but it does seem like an
 interesting tool.

RedMine looks very promising to me (I assume it to be at least as good as trac
and I liked trac a lot) -- actually I dearly want to play with it to see what
good it can do for us.

That said, the majority of the work wouldnt be the bugs themselves (and that
migrating that would already be huge), but also rewriting all the bazillion
small things that glue stuff together like:
- bug stats for the ESC
- wiki integration
- commit notification on bugs
- email list forwarding
- twitter feeds
- adjusting common workflows
- migrating over all current users
- finding a sweet spot in the release cycle where this is least painful
-  lots of other stuff 

some of the above is just as much work as setting up RedMine and migrating the
data, some of it is at least ten times as much work (namely pestering all our
existing bugzilla users to migrate). So IMHO this isnt something to consider
for LibreOffice the product in 2013 or 2014. Maybe later. ;)

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla replacement

2013-11-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Bjoern I think that is where I think a centralized LDAP repository. if LDAP
is currently in use then the user migration shouldnt be a problem at all.


On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:34 PM, bjoern bjoern.michael...@canonical.comwrote:

 Hi,
 On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 02:19:59PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
  I've only looked at Redmine very briefly, but it does seem like an
  interesting tool.

 RedMine looks very promising to me (I assume it to be at least as good as
 trac
 and I liked trac a lot) -- actually I dearly want to play with it to see
 what
 good it can do for us.

 That said, the majority of the work wouldnt be the bugs themselves (and
 that
 migrating that would already be huge), but also rewriting all the bazillion
 small things that glue stuff together like:
 - bug stats for the ESC
 - wiki integration
 - commit notification on bugs
 - email list forwarding
 - twitter feeds
 - adjusting common workflows
 - migrating over all current users
 - finding a sweet spot in the release cycle where this is least painful
 -  lots of other stuff 

 some of the above is just as much work as setting up RedMine and migrating
 the
 data, some of it is at least ten times as much work (namely pestering all
 our
 existing bugzilla users to migrate). So IMHO this isnt something to
 consider
 for LibreOffice the product in 2013 or 2014. Maybe later. ;)

 Best,

 Bjoern




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla replacement

2013-11-28 Thread bfoman
Jonathan Aquilina wrote
 Bjoern I think that is where I think a centralized LDAP repository. if
 LDAP
 is currently in use then the user migration shouldnt be a problem at all.

Hi!
LDAP authentication is supported in Bugzilla. Which unique Redmine features
you are thinking about? 
Apart per project wikis, forums or better SCM integration (but this project
uses Gerrit anyway) probably most missing features could be added to
Bugzilla as extensions or simply enabled in own hosted instance.
Best regards.



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