[Libreoffice-qa] Could Anyone Put a Netbook to Use

2015-03-06 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All,

We have two netbooks (Windows 8 but you could probably dual boot with
Linux) that were bought for QA that are currently not being used. Just
curious if anyone could put these to use. Preferably they would stick
with QA but if someone outside of QA could use them, I'll talk to
Florian to see what we can do.

Note that one of them has a German keyboard layout.

Email me directly if you could put it to use - let me know what you
would use it for, and how much use you would put it to :) I just hate to
see machines sitting around not being put to use.


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced

2015-03-06 Thread Joel Madero
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Suggested_Triage_Order

Click on the CrasherAll link (we should be monitoring these closely -
one is 7+ weeks old)


Best,
Joel

On 03/06/2015 06:58 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
 @Joel,  

 Think you need to share that query list for us to be able to run
 it--currently return invalid.

 Stuart




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced

2015-03-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Joel,  

Think you need to share that query list for us to be able to run
it--currently return invalid.

Stuart




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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-03-06 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Bjoern, Caolan, Miklos, Michael M, Norbert, Robinson, Cedric, Sophie,
  Lionel, Cloph, Stephan, Eike, Jan-Marek, Moggi, Michael S, Kendy,
  Andras, Thorsten
 
* Completed Action Items:
+ write blog post to promote hack-fests (Bjoern)
[ awesome, cf. twitter, G+ etc. ]
+ add finishing the Firebird driver to GSOC wiki page (Lionel)
 
* Pending Action Items:
+ please file an Easy-Hack this week: just a bug with whiteboard: (All)
EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillCpp TopicCleanup
+ thanks to:
+ http://bit.ly/1Dd4y8b
+ make sure to create a new openid if you are using the Google openID (all)
[ Good to move; 665 accounts not yet moved; vs. 20 have moved.
  deadline is mid April.
  + no rescue / recovery path as/when/if it goes wrong.
you need an OpenID account to login to replace it.
  How many peple didn't use Google to start ? (Bjoern)
  + around 700 google only (Norbert)
  Can we add a banner to Gerrit ? (Jan-Marek)
  + not so easily on the Login page.
  + could make a DOS - to switch off Google now (Bjoern)
  + with some annoying click-through etc. ?
  + will install an up-grade that removes the Google
icon (Norbert)
  + lots of people don't know what to type in there.
  Can we get an OpenID provider at TDF ? (Kendy)
  + in theory; but people still have to move.
  People using Fedora, LaunchPad, Verisign,
  + setup our own OpenId ? still have to migrate.
  + infra. perspective - better to move to TDF LDAP
for SSO across the board.
]
 
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.4.2 RC1
+ schedule RC1 - on Tuesday ?
+ currently only 2x patches waiting for review.
+ 4.3.7 due end of April
+ RC1  branch-off - end of April / start of May
+ 4.5.0 / 5.0.0 - 1st Alpha release - start of May.
+ Android  iOS Remote
+ patches in gerrit status ?
+ need to get in contact with the submitter; will take care of them
 
* 5.0 for the next release ? (Michael)
+ fine just marketing (Norbert)
+ no objections from tech. side, but likes 2015-1 (Bjoern)
+ profile migration from 3 to 4 a bit painful (Stephan)
+ does it make sense technically to require a profile migration
+ if not; just stick with a '4' in the user-profile.
+ on the other hand, if nothing needed ...
+ not unusual to have an API  user visible version (Miklos)
+ in the support group: reset your profile (Norbert)
+ seen blogs / forms - reset your profile.
+ mostly extensions busting things (Bjoern)
+ could just copy 4/ - 5/ and move on in the migration (Michael)
+ create unnecessary cruft (Lionel)
+ UX guys a bit annoyed, preserving toolbar settings between vers (Kendy)
+ people didn't see new improvements if they tweaked stuff.
+ some sort of migration would be welcome from a UX perspective.
+ perhaps worth investing some time in this.
+ prolly better to make people aware of this in a better way than
  a lossy migration (Stephan)
+ a bug to drop settings users set explicitly (Markus)
+ really hard to see programaticaly what was changed (Kendy/Michael)
+ still do-able with an info-bar question; - use them ? (Kendy)
+ can a user reset the profile ? (Norbert)
+ no (Kendy)
+ usually do a ver. # bump to do more disruptive changes in UNO API (Bjoern)
+ could we use the opportunity to do more disruptive changes ?
+ eg. PropertyValue  NamedValue - same thing.
+ code for both; could we kill one or make 1 an ext'n of the other ?
+ do whatever ABI breakage we want to (Norbert)
+ no big ABI changes on the roadmap (Stephan)
+ previous plan - was constant small changes (Michael)
+ seemed to do well with this plan. 
+ as long as the API doesn't break so much (jmux)
+ last time lots broke  we had to fix a lot.
+ not expecting a big change at this boundary (Norbert)
+ could raise the Linux base-line to RHEL6 ... (mst)
+ could drop some of the KDE3 stuff ? and/or compile KDE4 bits.
   + I guess many people would prefer a KDE4 based backend to KDE3 
(Jan-Marek)
+ Munich is just looking for the Ubuntu 12.04 baseline / gcc 4.6, so I 
guess this would be ok (Jan-Marek)
+ Munich is just compiling the KDE4 backend for LO 5.0 and 4.1 
(Jan-Marek)
= more a marketing decision, no compelling reasons not to.
 
* GSoC (Cedric/Thorsten)
+ we're accepted!
+ student application period: March 16 to March 27th
+ under 2x weeks from now
+ quite a few mentors missing in Melange.
   + otherwise getting 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced

2015-03-06 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 06/03/2015 16:00, Joel Madero a écrit :


There doesn't seem to be a backtrace with bug 89628, or did I miss
something ?

Alex

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced

2015-03-06 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 06/03/2015 16:00, Joel Madero a écrit :


No backtrace on bug 89844 either ?

Alex


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with Backtrace but Not Reproduced

2015-03-06 Thread Pedro
jmadero wrote
 I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts about bugs that have backtraces
 but QA has been unable to repro. Should these just be pushed to NEW ?

I think so. It was the accepted procedure for this bug
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62381

If there is a backtrace it is a proven bug even if the people in QA can not
reproduce it (either because they don't use the same programs, they aren't
on the same locale, etc)

If it is set to New, then some developer might be interested in fixing it.
If s/he needs further information then it can only be provided by the OP,
not by QA.

Just my 2 cents.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-documentation] Could Anyone Put a Netbook to Use

2015-03-06 Thread Joel Madero
To clarify...put to use means put to use for LIbreoffice not personal use ;)
On Mar 6, 2015 11:08 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 I would love one but i think Hazel, Jean, Peter and many others in here
 deserve them a LOT more than me!
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 6 March 2015 at 15:14, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 We have two netbooks (Windows 8 but you could probably dual boot with
 Linux) that were bought for QA that are currently not being used. Just
 curious if anyone could put these to use. Preferably they would stick
 with QA but if someone outside of QA could use them, I'll talk to
 Florian to see what we can do.

 Note that one of them has a German keyboard layout.

 Email me directly if you could put it to use - let me know what you
 would use it for, and how much use you would put it to :) I just hate to
 see machines sitting around not being put to use.


 Best,
 Joel

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