[Libreoffice-qa] Start Center

2015-07-23 Thread Terrence Enger
Hi, All,

A couple of questions about the Start Centre, if I may ...

(1) Starting with the dbgutil bibisect repo version
2015-07-10, the shortcut keys in the left pane are no
longer underscored, and it is necessary to qualify the
shortcut keys with Alt+.  Is this change intentional?
Windows (daily build, 2015-07-23) does not have this
change.

(2) The keys up-arrow and down-arrow move the selection,
indicated by a fine outline, through the options in the
top part of the left pane.  This seems to have been the
case since the introduction of the left pane, in Start
Center, but I somehow expected to be able to select the
Create options this way.  Am I wrong to be surprised?

Thanks,
Terry.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Triage: What takes the most time? What slows you down?

2015-07-23 Thread Terrence Enger
On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 09:28 -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote:
 I'm interested in hearing what takes the biggest chunk of your time
 during bug triage, so we can see if we can simplify and/or reduce the
 time/energy that we spend on each bug.

A good chunk of the time--and a disproportionately large part of the
frustration--is checking for potential duplicates.  The hard part, of
course, is imagining the words that an existing report might use to
describe the problem.  An implausibly short list from a bz query or a
tremendously long one are both useless.

If bibisecting shows that a bug is fairly new, a limitation by bug
creation date can usefully restrict the number of potential duplicates
returned.

Still, finding duplicates is the part of the process about which I
feel least competent.

(Needless to say, I am writing this weeks later because I am searching
for a potential duplicate.)

Terry.


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[Libreoffice-qa] 25000 resolved bugs

2015-07-23 Thread Tommy

RESOLVED bugs over 25K
check latest stats here:  http://snipurl.com/2a3ne8c

the total FIXED count is almost 27000 if we include the CLOSED and  
VERIFIED bugs as well.


so looking forward to break the 3 milestones.

congrats to all developers and triagers that made this possible,

bye, tommy27

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2015-07-23

2015-07-23 Thread Jan Holesovsky
* Present:
+ Jan-Marek, Muthu, Thorsten, Sophie, Christian, Eike, Caolan, Miklos,
  Kendy, Robinson, Bjoern, Lionel, Michael S, Cedric
 
* Completed Action Items:
+ post / collate regression tendering ideas - the board (Michael)
[ now wait for the board to officially tender ]
+ take a look at tdf#91495 (Kendy)
[ Tomaž did that, pushed to 5.0.0 too ]
+ chase Google / student travel budget (Thorsten)
[ no definitive answer yet - but we should invite the students
  either way, TDF backs that if budget from G. is not enough (Thorsten) 
]
[ Cedric asked the students to ask Carol  report back ]
+ send the script to do the Emjoi translation to Cloph (Laszlo)
[ got it (Cloph) - l10n happy to have that included if it was
  in the previous RC's ]
+ file conference papers [!] (All)
 + Rendercontext  design foo (Kendy)
 + ODF / TC bits (Andras)
+ file win64 / mork bug and poke David O etc. (Robinson)
+ Filed as tdf#92792
+ update 5.1 Linux base-line to CentOS/6 to get KDE4 support (Christian)
/usr/include/QtCore/qobjectdefs.h needs space-tweak, otherwise almost 
vanilla :-)
[ even on tinderboxes  provides builds ]
[ gnome-vfs switched to gio ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
+ get a non-TDF branded 5-0 set into git / master (Cloph)
[ have the new files, but OS X dnd - but in the works
  will push the new 5.0 branding to the libreoffice-5-0 branch ]
+ move existing git images into a private TDF branded pack (Cloph)
+ increase availble disk for crash-test VM136 (Cloph/Caolan)
[ cloph awaiting more info - what layout is needed ]
[ Caolan guessed by the needs on his local machine, no need to do
  anything ATM, will get back to Cloph ]
+ review Guiseppe's webdav work in gerrit (Kendy/?)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/17080/
[ part 1 merged by Michael, more to do by Kendy / somebody ]
+ come up with a fun new name for 'blocker' (Robinson)
[ please email Robinson if you have a good idea ]
+ file conference papers [!] (All)
+ please submit abstracts:
+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/
 + Ace of Base (Lionel)
   [ has an overlap with holidays ]
   [ you can come a day later maybe? (Thorsten) ]
   [ no problem for the papers committee - you can define
 the available days (Kendy) ]
+ register at the conference: 
http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/registration/ (all)
[ mandatory from security reasons (Sophie) ]
+ re-arrange the help XML for the menu changes (Jay)
[ Jay was away for vacation, promised to have a look at
  HelpAuthoring.oxt over the weekend (Kendy) ]
+ poke Jay / Kendy do we need to revert UI / menu changes ? (Sophie)
[ Sophie was away, will have a look / poke today ]
+ track  support help XML status (Kendy)
[ new HelpAuthoring.oxt release ongoing ]
+ UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
+ UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
+ review ongoing pootle maintenance funding arrangements (Floeff)
[ Sophie thinks he did it the last week - will check with him ]
+ check 'make check' on a Windows 32bit box instead (Norbert)
+ promote Development Mentoring Lead Job Offer through all channels: 
Universities, Companies, Clubs, ex-GSoCers etc. (all)
  
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/07/15/tdf-freelance-job-opening-201507-01-development-mentoring-lead/
[ please spread the word (Bjoern) ]
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.4.5 - RC2 status
+ tagged  built on OS X and Linux; Windows ongoing
+ will be upladed later today
+ 5.0.0 - status / branch
+ heavy-duty triple-review process for libreoffice-5-0-0 branch
+ 1x review for 5-0 and +2 more for 5-0-0
+ RC3 to be tagged later today
+ 6 patches still pending
+ 10pm will start export from pootle
+ please still review!!!
   + please really do ;-) - will poke people on IRC (Eike)
+ Major bugs
+ presenter console - not rendering on Windows (Michael)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91574
  [ now fixed - but horrendous code and coupling in there
reviews for -5-0-0 appreciated ]
   + no cherry pick request for 5.0.0? (Cloph)
AI:+ will do one (Kendy)
   + please check EMF+ rendering too (Kendy)
AI:+ will do (Robinson)
+ anything else (Robinson)
+ nothing on his shortlist
+ Late Feature Status (Michael)
  + LibreOfficeKit / Online tweaks (Kendy)
  + no changes - mostly changes going into master anyway.
  + 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2015-07-23

2015-07-23 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi,

Jan Holesovsky píše v Čt 23. 07. 2015 v 17:21 +0200:

 + Major bugs
 + presenter console - not rendering on Windows (Michael)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91574
   [ now fixed - but horrendous code and coupling in there
 reviews for -5-0-0 appreciated ]
+ no cherry pick request for 5.0.0? (Cloph)
 AI:+ will do one (Kendy)

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/17286

Michael has abandoned it himself in 5.0.0; so if...

+ please check EMF+ rendering too (Kendy)
 AI:+ will do (Robinson)

...we still can get more testing mostly of the potential side-effects of
this patch, we could push it manually; but for the moment it seems more
like a 5.0.1 fix I guess.

All the best,
Kendy

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[Libreoffice-qa] need advice about tdf#80175

2015-07-23 Thread Terrence Enger
Hi, all.

I have reached a point where tdf#80157 FILEOPEN: error message
opening particular .docx might or might not be ready to be marked
resolved.  Comment 11
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80175#c11
describes how far I got.  Advice welcome.

BTW, I have a vague memory of a whiteboard word or a keyword for
asking for QA advice, but I do not see it in either
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard or
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Keywords.

Thanks,
Terry.


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