[Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla versions cleanup proposals
in the last few weeks I was given Bugzilla admin power by Joel and I'm adding new version once they come out and rename RCs to release once they are promoted. I think I could do some cleanups but I need your opinion first... - 1 - remove the all versions items - actually we have 7 of those items for 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 and there's no 4.3 all versions I don't remember exactly why these all versions have been added... maybe was something related to the Bugzilla Submission Assistant (BSA) which I don't even know if it longer works. anyway I see that these all versions items have been very rarely used scroll the list here: https://goo.gl/nIJTEC and you see that there are only few bugs that use those labels. so let's get rid of them by just hiding them from the version select menu. it will shorten our long version list - 2- END-OF-LIFE version collapse from 6 to 3 months - in order to shorten the list it was decided that all the alphas, betas and RCs of an END-OF-LIFE branch should be hidden after 6 months from the EOL date, leaving just the final releases visible. I think the 6 months period is unnecessary too long and can be safely reduced to 3. let's take the example of the 4.3.x branch https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#4.3_release the EOL was May 27, 2015. with the current 6 months waiting time we will do the cleanup on November 27, 2015... by that date the 4.4.x will be EOL too and the 5.0.x will be in a very advanced stage with LibO 5.0.4 available so I think that it will be very unlikely at the end of 2015 to see people submitting new bugs about the alphas, betas and RCs of the 4.3.x branch. let's rather set the waiting time to 3 months which means the collapse will take place on August 27, 2015 where you'll also have releases of LibO 4.4.5 and 5.0.1 -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla versions cleanup proposals
On 07/26/2015 07:02 AM, Tommy wrote: in the last few weeks I was given Bugzilla admin power by Joel and I'm adding new version once they come out and rename RCs to release once they are promoted. I think I could do some cleanups but I need your opinion first... - 1 - remove the all versions items - actually we have 7 of those items for 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 and there's no 4.3 all versions Disagree here - we did discuss this at length and there is a reason why we have it. For instance Red Hat is still running on an old version of LibreOffice and we want to give the option to report against those versionI'm sure there are minutes and/or email threads discussing this at length. - 2- END-OF-LIFE version collapse from 6 to 3 months - in order to shorten the list it was decided that all the alphas, betas and RCs of an END-OF-LIFE branch should be hidden after 6 months from the EOL date, leaving just the final releases visible. I think the 6 months period is unnecessary too long and can be safely reduced to 3. let's take the example of the 4.3.x branch https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#4.3_release the EOL was May 27, 2015. with the current 6 months waiting time we will do the cleanup on November 27, 2015... by that date the 4.4.x will be EOL too and the 5.0.x will be in a very advanced stage with LibO 5.0.4 available so I think that it will be very unlikely at the end of 2015 to see people submitting new bugs about the alphas, betas and RCs of the 4.3.x branch. Again disagree - there's no reason really outside of slight aesthetics to do thislots of people are running older versions and because version is supposed to be oldest version...it makes sense to leave these available. Should be discussed at QA IRC Meeting but my vote goes to no on both. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 5.0.0 RC4 available
Dear Community, The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the fourth release candidate of LibreOffice 5.0.0. The upcoming 5.0.0 will be the first release of our fresh 5.0 line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 5.0.0 RC4 has not been flagged as ready for production use yet, however feel free to give it a try instead of 4.4.4. A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 5.0 can be found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Windows builds are also provided in 64bit version. Should you find bugs, please report them to our Bugzilla: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can e.g. contribute code: http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/ translate LibreOffice to your language: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide or help with funding our operations: http://donate.libreoffice.org/ A list of known issues and fixed bugs compared to 5.0.0 rc3 is available from our wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.0.0/RC4 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have been possible without your help. On behalf of the Community, Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla versions cleanup proposals
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:49:43 +0200, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: On 07/26/2015 07:02 AM, Tommy wrote: ... - 1 - remove the all versions items - actually we have 7 of those items for 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 and there's no 4.3 all versions Disagree here - we did discuss this at length and there is a reason why we have it. For instance Red Hat is still running on an old version of LibreOffice and we want to give the option to report against those versionI'm sure there are minutes and/or email threads discussing this at length. I still do not understand what's the purpose of having a generic 3.4 all versions while you already have a specific 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.2... 3.4.7 item. people still using an old version will report bugs about their specific version (i.e. 3.4.5) not that generic 3.4 all... the cleanup will remove just the 3.4 all versions not the single .0, .1, .2, etc items which will be still available what about the Red Had version you talk about? I suppose it has a specific versionnumber not a generic all version number - 2- END-OF-LIFE version collapse from 6 to 3 months - in order to shorten the list it was decided that all the alphas, betas and RCs of an END-OF-LIFE branch should be hidden after 6 months from the EOL date, leaving just the final releases visible. I think the 6 months period is unnecessary too long and can be safely reduced to 3. so I think that it will be very unlikely at the end of 2015 to see people submitting new bugs about the alphas, betas and RCs of the 4.3.x branch. are you still seeing people submitting bugs about this 4.3.x non final releases? I think is very unlikely that there's people still using an alpha, beta or any of the RC1's of the 4.3.x branch by the end of august 2015 remember that 4.3.0 alphas and betas were releases in april-june 2014 which is more than 1 year ago. there's really no chance people is still testing those ones. the last 2 non final releases were: 4.3.6 RC1 -- january 2015 4.3.7 RC1 -- april 2015 since those are very late phase stable branch releases, only few verified fixes were integrated into them and in the past I've seen only few bugs introduced in the .6 or .7 releases... so it's again unlikely to see a new submitted bug about 4.3.6 RC1 or 4.3.7 RC1 months after their release Again disagree - there's no reason really outside of slight aesthetics to do thislots of people are running older versions and because version is supposed to be oldest version...it makes sense to leave these available. the final releases will be still available after the cleanup. just the alpha, beta and RC1 will be removed the final one will be still available like it's for older branches. Should be discussed at QA IRC Meeting but my vote goes to no on both. Best, Joel sure, it has to be discussed and voted like everything here. we can still argue which is the right time period... IMHO 6 months is too much and 3 months would be appropriate. a compromise would be 4 months cheers, Tommy ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
