[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-01-26 Thread Michael Meeks 
* Present:
+ Stephan, Caolan, Andras, Kendy, JanI, Xisco, Miklos, Michael M,
Eike, Heiko, Christian, Jan-Marek, Bubli, Michael S, Sweetshark

* Completed Action Items:
  + mail Norbert wrt. Aleksandar and welcome (JanI)
  + do the area layout / issue revert for 5.3 (Xisco)
  + Eventually not reverted: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-ESC-call-tp4205182p4205193.html
Fixed by Tomaž Vajngerl - Thanks
  + investigate https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/testsets/all/en (Xisco)
[ https://gitlab.com/odfplugfest/odfserver]
+ Server is up and running locally in a vm
  + revert ‘online’ toolbar / textwrap patch for 5.3 (Thorsten)
+ there, just on the branch though.

* Pending Action Items:
  + setup bibisect repository for 4.3 with Norbert (Xisco)
 + planned for FOSDEM.
  + give authorization to Xisco on jenkins in-person @ FOSDEM (Norbert)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.2.5 release status
+ announced today
+ 5.3.0 RC3
+ will tag this later today, will be announced before FOSDEM
+ rather a short RC → we go live on Wednesday.
+ anything in the queue ?
 + curl update – with a -1 from Thorsten
 + Caolan – a couple of patches needing review.
 + round up reviews:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-5-3-0 
+ final release as planned
+ Android & iOS Remote (Cloph)
+ Jan reviewed pending patches; so release planned.
+ online (Michael)
+ need to tag & release today.
+ online/TDF/LDAP accounts etc. (Michael)
+ status ? we’d love to announce that for wider testing, l10n etc.
+ people are invited to try out the LDAP (Cloph)
+ that gives accounts on master LibreOffice Online builds instance.
+ also access to Collabora demo server etc.
+ 

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ away today +
+ More help contents corrections
+ More chapters of Getting Started 5.2 reviewed
+ Contact with Fabio Biochetti yesterday night:
+ breadcrumbs for online help ready, need support with gerrit.
+ Fabio not needing gerrit support (JanI)

* Gerrit feedback for David (Michael)
+ going to the gerrit conf. on our behalf.
+ annoying behavior – automatic lost of comments when not logged in (Miklos)
+ if reply needs re-login, comment is lost.
+ love a queue that auto-merged when CI succeeds (Michael)
+ one button migration of github pull requests ? (Bjoern)
 e.g. status of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37497
* UX Update (Heiko)
  + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
   253(253) (topicUI) bugs open, 470(470) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
   + Updates:
   BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months  
added  6(3)  15(5) 42(7)  494(19) 
commented 37(-36)   250(30)   799(-3)3751(89) 
  removed  0(-2)  6(3)  7(-2)  39(4)  
 resolved  4(-12)37(-1)73(-35)178(4)  
   + top 10 contributors:
 Tietze, Heiko made 167 changes in 1 month, and 2001 changes in 1 year
 Foote, V Stuart made 41 changes in 1 month, and 665 changes in 1 year
 Iversen, Jan made 25 changes in 1 month, and 465 changes in 1 year
 Telesto made 25 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
 Buovjaga made 24 changes in 1 month, and 359 changes in 1 year
 Cor Nouws made 16 changes in 1 month, and 454 changes in 1 year
 Philips, Yousuf made 15 changes in 1 month, and 1648 changes in 1 year
 Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 14 changes in 1 month, and 203 changes in 1 
year
 Kevin, Suo made 13 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
 Monastirsky, Maxim made 10 changes in 1 month, and 78 changes in 1 year
+ could have work for 20-30 students on GSOC (but some UI / mockup 
proposals needed).

* Enable creating backups of user profile in release builds (Bubli)
+ part of profile safe mode feature
+ 2 backups (zip archives) of user profile kept around in non-release builds
+ user profile can be restored from those backups in safe mode
+ a patch from Samuel M: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/33584/1
   + activates this in release builds. 
   + untested in practice so far, risk level unclear 
+ feature is shown in the UI ? (Michael)
   + restore from backup always inactive in 5.3 – no backups generated.
   + don’t know how big they can grow in real life.
+ users can enable this manually – but unsure if it should be for everyone.
+ drag and drop to the gallery can create big user directories (Heiko)
   + warning taking a backup can consume 1Gb for big galleries.
   + could we ask for confirmation at a high level ?
   + Co

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-26

2017-01-26 Thread Heiko Tietze 
Present: kendy, jay, steve, heiko, tomaz

Tickets

 * Remove snap-to-grid setting in favor of menu options
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105326
   + Remove from options?
   + One per document the other in general? (kendy)
   + But if they are both the same, no objection (Kendy)
   + Menu access was added recently; no need to remove the feature from tools > 
options (Jay)

Tasks

 * Talked shortly about a11y guideline; still WIP

GSoC Ideas
(see also https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas)

 * Unit conversion + variable, high precision input
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72662
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44267
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105176
   + task may be too small for gsoc (Jay)

 * Improvements to Notebookbar
   + issues in current implementation
   + WYSIWYG configuration (replaces 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Rework_of_the_Tools_-.3E_Customization..._dialog
 )
   + include sidebar
  + not sure that sidebar improvements relates to notebookbar (Jay)
   + Custom xml format for Notebookbar (Samuel)
 + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Notebookbar
 + Agree (Jay)

 * Improvements to Sidebar
   + preview for tables styles
 + this is part of the table styles gsoc and not sidebar (Jay)
   + preview for graphic styles
 + more important is cell style previews for Calc (Jay)
   + could be 3 projects (kendy)
   + 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Review_of_the_sidebar_.26_its_functionality
   + general improvement to sidebar that has been going on every gsoc (continue 
susobhan's work from laste year) (Jay)
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AOkDSqNfO7Hyj-a-tURyXISeuZRUx1JRE8P30YhnBXo/edit?usp=sharing

 * Block diagrams
   + Auto format of (block) diagrams (tdf#99669)
   + SmartArt (tdf#37932, tdf#92902)
  + this is interopability and should be part of a dedicated interopability 
gsoc project (Jay)
   + would be nice (kendy); we suggest this project for years (tomaz)
   + prototype patch by thorsten available (kendy)

 * Callouts
   + see discussion about broken links in 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105187
   + (suggestion to introduce those controls was done last week;
 callouts provide non-interrupting information for the user, e.g. in case 
of possible issues in the future)
   + interesting, use case not fully clear (kendy)

 * Navigator
   + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/07/31/how-the-navigator-may-support-object-handling-in-libreoffice-draw/
   + make sense (tomaz)
   + Bjoern mentioned he wanted to take this on, so maybe he could be a mentor 
for it (Jay)

 * Custom Shapes
   + inbuilt editor
   + better shapes
   + new gallery 
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Revamp_the_gallery_tool
 )
   + thumbs up; interoperability is difficult when it comes to custom shapes 
(kendy)

 * Blurry shadows
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48722
   + very good for gsoc (kendy)
   + made something in the past which could be used (tomaz)
   + most wanted #1/2 (heiko)
   + important for svg (Jay)

 * Brushes
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90045
   + could also solve https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66587
   + would be cool to have (kendy)
   + but very hard to implement... (Kendy)
   + most wanted #2/2 (heiko)
   + dont sure i see what is hoped to be acheived (Jay)

 * Dialog improvements
   + meta - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102019
   + Table of Contents: Entries tab
 + please improve it (tomaz)
   + New dialogs
 + Object Properties - 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96355
 + Chart properties - 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90687
   + Load Sytle dialog
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102002

 * Bibliography dialog
   + 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Bibliography_dialog
   + needs mockup but still very relevant (heiko)

 * Application Themes
   + 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Application_Themes
   + kick out because of notebookbar (heiko)
   + having different layouts/visual layouts would be nice (tomaz)
  + yes, I'd still keep it in the list (Kendy)
   + still important to theme the entire application to have a consistant look 
across OSes (Jay)

 * Document Theme
   + yeah, will support this (tomaz)

 * Online Media
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Online_Media

 * Special characters dialog
   + 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Special_characters_dialog

 * Revamp print dialog
 * Improve handling of AutoText



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