[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Caolan, Heiko, Kendy, Miklos, Michael M, Sophie, Eike, Stephan,
  Norbert, Christian, Björn, Olivier, Andras, David, bubli, Jan-Marek, 
Thorsten,
  Xisco, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:
+ collect names of Perugia / Hackfest interested mentors in a wiki page 
(Bjoern)
  template wiki page created: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Perugia2017

* Pending Action Items:
+ org admins to invite mentors (when gsoc page bug fixed) (Thorsten)
+ look into advertising tweet for GSOC from TDF (Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.2.6 RC2
+ announced as final today.
+ test was randomly failing (Bjoern)
+ was known; not seen it before - a regression (?)
+ mentioned in previous ESC calls - in XShape2 tests (Cloph)
+ only failed on Windows; Linux un-affected apparently.
+ prolly some dep. chain / dependency issue.
   + worked on 2nd try so ...
+ broke on i386 Ubuntu builders so can't be a dep issue (Bjoern)
   + help / test disabling appreciated (Michael)
+ 5.3.1 RC2
+ on pre-releases, and is being pushed to mirrors
+ will be announced as RC later today.
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ Intel build ready, ARM out of space - release soon.
+ online (Michael)
+ 5.3.2 next - patches welcome etc.

* Retrospective: bump master baseline from MSVC 2013 to 2015? (Stephan)
+ any problems ? (Michael)
+ not updated tinderbox build pieces for this branch yet (Cloph)
+ some problems updating toolchains from people. (Stephan)
+ UWINAPI.DLL - a cleanup fix to get rid of that
AI:+ look at old Duden extension to see if they use that (Thorsten)

* Documentation (Olivier)
 + Published blog post on latest guide
 + Traffic on documentation website climbing steadily
 + Patch by aeimi for new help system (need more work)
 + Awaiting Pootle fix for Help 3 (as last week)
 + didn't connect with pootle devs this week (Cloph)
 + last week: had found another issue - fixing & testing.
 + not sure when this would happen.
 + content changes don't need to wait; only automated cleanups (Cloph)

* UX Update (Heiko)
  + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
   251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 475(475) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
   + Updates:
   BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
added  3(1) 14(2) 37(3)  495(-1) 
commented 63(39)   224(7)739(23)3673(-22)
  removed  1(0)  3(1)  9(1)   39(1)  
 resolved  8(6) 50(4)100(3)  205(8)  
   + top 10 contributors:
 Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 166 changes in 1 month, and 379 changes in 
1 year
 Tietze, Heiko made 142 changes in 1 month, and 2189 changes in 1 year
 Foote, V Stuart made 46 changes in 1 month, and 682 changes in 1 year
 Buovjaga made 41 changes in 1 month, and 367 changes in 1 year
 Thomas Lendo made 40 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
 Cor Nouws made 22 changes in 1 month, and 477 changes in 1 year
 Kainz, Andreas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
 LibreTraining made 15 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
 Philips, Yousuf made 13 changes in 1 month, and 1395 changes in 1 year
 *UNKNOWN* made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
   + will run a survey on default table styles
  + 39 different styles, both existing and new
   + also planned is a quick poll about the default color palette
  + three options on the table; community to decide.
   + considering interactive prototyping tool with RE feature
   + would like to make clear what new functionality is needed
 to make it fully functional
+ no way to compare features introduced vs. replaced.
+ open-source tools already a problem when un-maintained 
(Michael)
 + not eager for proprietary too
   + any problem with requirement tracking ? (Heiko)
+ word 'requirement' is a bit tricky in open-source (Michael)

* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 3 import failure, 1 export failures
+ cleared the docx issues.
+ one of the import failures is in the number-formatting code
+ changed recently.
+ 168 coverity issues.
  + didn't do much this week.
+ Google / ossfuzz: 22 fuzzers active now
+ picking leaks out of things to get ppt going
  + fuzzer crashes when OOM currently.
+ lots of places, temporarily duplicating memory when moving bitmaps 
around
+ fixing some of these to reduce memory use.
+ using a representative minimal set of documents for this.
  + http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/corpus/

* linking from edit

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Mar-09

2017-03-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: 
  + Samuel, Heiko, Cor (partly), Jay, Tomaz

Organization

 * Have a special UX hackfest/meeting?
   + idea from Arnaud acknowledged by TDF
   + no interest so far; will drop from the planning 

 * Custom Shapes
   + Have a meeting with stakeholders and talk about next steps (Jay)
   + AI Heiko: send out an email 

Tickets

 * Notebookbar procedure
   + new section in wiki with guidelines for general purpose 
 and contextual sections https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
   + single line and tabs missing

 * Should this be backported to make non-notebookbar modes accessible to all 
(Jay)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103323
   + 
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=50468779725c9eaccae17e4e39a6651f12e49340
   + it's a minor bug fix so it makes sense to add to 5.3.1 (Jay)
   + is in master for some weeks, should be safe to push (Samuel)
   + will have a look and approve it (Samuel)

 * Default set of table styles
   + Asked again on the ML and did a short survey 
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/
   + got a number of replies, unfortunately in the survey where comments cannot 
be assigned properly 
 to the question (as told in the ML)
   + propose to run the survey now with the community but have only one comment 
at the end (Heiko)
 + no objections
 + two approaches possible: 1: what do people like; 2: is there anything 
that people do 
   not want to be part of the set
   + check with Jakub/Miklos whether text formatting is part of table style ODF 
and OOXML formats (Jay)
   + text formatting is applied currently (Heiko)

 * New default color palette 
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538
   + recommend to run a poll with the 3 variants in 12x9 size (Heiko)
   + suggest to do it on the ML (Jay)
   + as an Open Source project we should include the whole community (Heiko)



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